From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 27 20:31:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A525C1065670 for ; Thu, 27 May 2010 20:31:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tobier@tobier.se) Received: from mailout2.surf-town.net (mailout2.surf-town.net [212.97.132.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F9AC8FC1B for ; Thu, 27 May 2010 20:31:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (mailout2 [127.0.0.1]) by mailout2.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5382F170; Thu, 27 May 2010 22:31:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from squirrel-webmail.surftown.com (unknown [212.97.133.1]) by mailout2.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D9715E; Thu, 27 May 2010 22:31:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 85.224.157.30 (SquirrelMail authenticated user tobier@tobier.se) by squirrel-webmail.surftown.com with HTTP; Thu, 27 May 2010 22:31:39 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <5255c46819fb6da0b7cba055a9990079.squirrel@squirrel-webmail.surftown.com> In-Reply-To: <4BFEA475.3090607@cran.org.uk> References: <4BFEA475.3090607@cran.org.uk> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 22:31:39 +0200 (CEST) From: "Tobias Eriksson" To: "Bruce Cran" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.16 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 27 May 2010 20:35:19 +0000 Cc: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sysinstall for just installing? X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tobier@tobier.se List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 20:31:46 -0000 > On 27/05/2010 09:27, Tobias Eriksson wrote: >> I've been thinking a bit about sysinstall. >> What do we really want to do with it? >> See, the way I use sysinstall is just to install my system, I never use >> it >> after an install, so to me it seems pointless having it on there after I >> have my system up and going. Of course this is just me, maybe many out >> there use sysinstall daily. >> >> What I'm getting at is that maybe sysinstall should be more tailored to >> just installing: make it more straightforward to the user. Start with >> setting up the keyboard and language, then maybe the NIC menu as >> described >> in earlier posts, and then move on to partitioning and package >> installing. >> >> Is it just me that thinks like this, or do you have similar thoughts? >> > > It seems to be recommended to only use it for installing, and to use > other tools for post-configuration: for example the partitioning section > has been copied out into usr.sbin/sade. It should definitely be more > straightforward, without the baffling list of options and settings: for > example I had a discussion with someone recently who rightly thought > that users shouldn't have to go into the FixIt menu when they've already > loaded the LiveFS CD - it should be more or less automatic. > > Whether this gets fixed is another matter: apparently one of the > discussions at BSDCan was about having the PC-BSD installer be the > primary method for installing 9.0, with FreeBSD's sysinstall being > available if users need it. > > -- > Bruce Cran > Using the PC-BSD installer would be an option. However, if sysinstall would still be in the system, I would like to have the changes we discussed to be incorporated. Looks like I could have myself a project this summer :)