From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 22:59:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E4FA16A4E8 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 22:59:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.magma.ca (mx2.magma.ca [206.191.0.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA3E343D53 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 22:59:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ebudd@grokking.org) Received: from in1.magma.ca (in1.magma.ca [206.191.0.223]) by mx2.magma.ca (Magma's Mail Server) with ESMTP id i6SMxp10013698 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 18:59:51 -0400 Received: from mx1.sohotech.ca (ottawa-hs-64-26-169-251.s-ip.magma.ca [64.26.169.251]) by in1.magma.ca (Magma's Mail Server) with ESMTP id i6SMxoWN011665 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 18:59:51 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.3] (heinlein.sohotech.ca [192.168.1.3]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx1.sohotech.ca (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6SMxmCt095525 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 18:59:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ebudd@grokking.org) Message-ID: <41082FE4.4050107@grokking.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 18:59:48 -0400 From: Ed Budd User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (X11/20040702) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20040728112715.47686.qmail@web41003.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20040728112715.47686.qmail@web41003.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.44 Subject: Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an installerpackage like this ??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 22:59:52 -0000 > What I have noticed so far about FreeBSD: > > FreeBSD is about 5 YEARS behind windows(I would actually say 1990, but people my have heart > attacks) - apologies to all the hard work put in by BSD contributors! > > - with FreeBSD & Windows 2000 installed on the SAME computer, the GUI of Windows 2000 is MUCH > faster than any of the BSD window managers(wmaker, FVWM, blackbox, fluxbox, XFCE(STILL can't start > this from exec, whats the damn command startxfce4 ??? this doesn't work!)... I won't even comment > on the shitty performance of KDE & GNOME - If people say it should be used without a GUI... they > must be over 40, bald, lonely & most love shitty VI - I can EDIT any file faster on a GUI editor > then any coder I have seen at UNI/WORK who say VI is better... > > - No default GUI File Explorer(excluding KDE/GNOME, not that there's is usable) - had to install > xfe on wmaker(still about as useless as Windows 3.1 File Manager) > > - FreeBSD does NOT Default Mount my CD & Floppy(this is ridiculous - even MS DOS NOT to mention > Windows 3.1[Year 1990... ring a bell] did this!!) - you honestly expect new users to edit > configuration files so it automounts ?? ... instead of having stuff in the man/manual/docs about > mounting/unmounting, just automount them as DEFAULT... no need to read the docs... logical ??? > - 300 Million Users of Windows thinks so ;)) (BTW: I am NOT including KDE/GNOME) > > - No default Find Files GUI - I won't even comment on lack of functionality of Cmd line > whereis/search/find > > I can tell you that 95% of people who use computers want "EASE of USE" > - This INCLUDES easy installation of the Operating System > - This should INCLUDE a default setup that HAS: a Default FAST GUI/File Manager/Find Files/Editor > .. this is all that is needed to get a user up & going to installing & configuring the OS to thier > tastes ... did I forget to mention as default AUTOMOUNT !! > > > I cannot tell you the shock & disappointment I had in finding out that Windows 2000 runs FASTER > than FreeBSD with any GUI/Windows Manager/Desktop Environment ... :((( > > > > ...damn I have gone way off track here... sorry for the ranting people... but after 6 days > straight of messing around trying to install Apache/MySQL/Mod_Perl/Mod_SSL/PHP.. I am a little > tired... 3 days of that was trying to get a basic GUI/File Manager/Find Files/Editor working > > It must be very tiring and stressful to be a Troll. Perhaps you should consider another occupation...