Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 10:51:10 +0900 From: Joel Rees <rees@ddcom.co.jp> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: [NNOT] Stability on Soekris class h/w? (was Re: 6.0-BETA2 as reliable webserver?) Message-ID: <5ED76ABA-B43B-4033-97B4-EDE7D1F79B9C@ddcom.co.jp> In-Reply-To: <20050820042406.GL13959@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> References: <58875.217.166.224.132.1124487738.squirrel@www.van-steenbeek.net> <20050820042406.GL13959@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au>
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On =E5=B9=B3=E6=88=90 17/08/20, at 13:24, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On Fri, 2005-Aug-19 23:42:18 +0200, Frans-Jan v. Steenbeek wrote: > >> building. Since we are moving in a few months, we decided to use a HP >> laptop instead (reasonably fast CPU, 512 Megs) since we had a few to >> spare. >> >> The toy is currently set up with FreeBSD 6.0-BETA2, Apache 2.0, =20 >> MySQL 5.0 >> and PHP-5.0 with all the reasonable modules. Everything is =20 >> compiled from >> ports. No changes to the kernel yet, no world-rebuilding done. >> > > I'd also be extremely loath to bet my company on a laptop running beta > software. As others have pointed out, laptops aren't designed for > this. (Though my old Compaq laptop ran FreeBSD 24x7 for several years > and I only stopped using it because the lid was cracking too badly). Yeah, I've had my home server running on an old iBook (not FreeBSD). =20 I had replaced the original disk with a larger used one because the =20 original was just 6GB. The used disk lasted only a year. Had to open =20 it back up and put the 6GB drive back in until I can afford a new =20 disk (or a Mac Mini). I need to add RAM to that poor child, too. That said, 512 MB RAM in the HP notebook might leave enough RAM for a =20= RAM disk. One could mirror Apache, PHP, MySQL (app, not DB), =20 libraries, and the web app itself onto a RAM disk. That way the =20 server could respond to initial hits out of the RAM disk while the HD =20= is spinning up. > If you're really concerned about noise: > - use an older desktop and maybe even underclock it to keep it cooler > - build your own system. Either go the low power route (mini-ITX) so > you don't need noisy fans or use an over-rated PSU and CPU heatsink > to keep fan speed (and noise) down. In either case, you'll need to > look around to find a quiet HDD. So, what's the stability of FreeBSD 5.x/6.x on Soekris class hardware? I'm thinking especially in terms of mulit-port nics that would =20 support bridging, etc. > - [as a completely left-field suggestion] look at something like an > Apple G5 system - large fans running slowly generate very little =20 > noise. Maybe even Mac Mini? ;-> fbsd on PPC is still not even close to stable, and the iNTEL Macs are =20= still at least ten months away. But openBSD and netBSD run rather =20 well on PPC if the eye candy of Mac OS X is unpleasant or the cost of =20= Mac OS X Server (for a little added peace of mind?) is uncomfortable. Joel Rees <rees@ddcom.co.jp> digitcom, inc. =E6=A0=AA=E5=BC=8F=E4=BC=9A=E7=A4=BE=E3=83=87=E3=82=B8=E3= =82=B3=E3=83=A0 Kobe, Japan +81-78-672-8800 ** <http://www.ddcom.co.jp>; **
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