From owner-cvs-etc Thu Jun 5 19:32:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA21645 for cvs-etc-outgoing; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 19:32:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA21640; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 19:32:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) id MAA29428; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 12:00:56 +0930 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199706060230.MAA29428@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc/mtree BSD.include.dist In-Reply-To: <199706051140.LAA02530@veda.is> from Adam David at "Jun 5, 97 11:40:33 am" To: adam@veda.is (Adam David) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 12:00:56 +0930 (CST) Cc: dg@root.com, jkh@time.cdrom.com, ache@nagual.pp.ru, asami@cs.berkeley.edu, bde@zeta.org.au, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-etc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-cvs-etc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Adam David stands accused of saying: > > Well, I disagree with you, Jordan. I think we should make the kernel > > sources a mandatory part of the system and /usr/include/sys should be a > > symlink. Count this as a resounding NO vote to the above. > > David Greenman > > Let me second this, and add the rationale that most people don't want to > be running a kernel.GENERIC bloated with all kinds of drivers for devices > they probably don't have (and not all drivers that they do need). This is contradicted by my experience and that of numerous other posters over the years. Most users don't give a damn whether there are extra drivers in their kernel; OTOH they generally get pretty pissed if a driver they need _isn't_. > However, building a custom kernel will likely always be a typical operation > during post-installation machine configuration. Don't make me laugh. It _might_ be, if the user/admin is particularly paranoid, but believe me when I say that GENERIC is a lot more popular than you seem to think. > Adam David -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[