From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Fri Jan 17 13:17:30 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B12E22E448 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2020 13:17:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Received: from hz.grosbein.net (hz.grosbein.net [IPv6:2a01:4f8:c2c:26d8::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "hz.grosbein.net", Issuer "hz.grosbein.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47zhS939m4z4TdL for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2020 13:17:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Received: from eg.sd.rdtc.ru (eg.sd.rdtc.ru [IPv6:2a03:3100:c:13:0:0:0:5]) by hz.grosbein.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 00HDHHf4044164 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 17 Jan 2020 13:17:18 GMT (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) X-Envelope-From: eugen@grosbein.net X-Envelope-To: slw@zxy.spb.ru Received: from [10.58.0.4] ([10.58.0.4]) by eg.sd.rdtc.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 00HDHGf9044145 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Fri, 17 Jan 2020 20:17:16 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Subject: Re: svn commit: r356758 - in head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall: . scripts To: Slawa Olhovchenkov References: <20200117000333.GI38096@zxy.spb.ru> <3b4b4bda-75a3-3019-bc02-ecd6acacd77f@grosbein.net> <20200117112151.GJ38096@zxy.spb.ru> <0f117603-d995-b32d-68fb-36cc319d9b79@grosbein.net> <20200117125851.GK38096@zxy.spb.ru> Cc: "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" From: Eugene Grosbein Message-ID: <798ef101-c9e5-093b-8a0c-7fd3cb9a07b1@grosbein.net> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 20:17:11 +0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200117125851.GK38096@zxy.spb.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,LOCAL_FROM, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Report: * -2.3 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] * 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record * -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record * 2.6 LOCAL_FROM From my domains X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on hz.grosbein.net X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47zhS939m4z4TdL X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=permerror (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of eugen@grosbein.net uses mechanism not recognized by this client) smtp.mailfrom=eugen@grosbein.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.87 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[grosbein.net]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_PERMFAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-1.77)[ip: (-4.82), ipnet: 2a01:4f8::/29(-2.49), asn: 24940(-1.52), country: DE(-0.02)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:2a01:4f8::/29, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 13:17:30 -0000 17.01.2020 19:58, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: >>>> Considering /usr/ports, /usr/src and /usr/obj and amount of RAM >>>> needed to keep metadata in ZFS ARC >>> >>> /usr/ports, /usr/src and /usr/obj don't need be exist on low-RAM >>> install -- use poudriere and release build on dedicated build host and >>> applay binary update. >> >> Poudriere itself has its disadvantages. It's heavy and it's unable to produce minimal set of target packages >> suitable for "pkg install -U *.txz" command without build-only dependencies. > > Can you do it by /usr/ports way? No. And what you point? I can and I do, with my own scripts. >> I'd like to stick with poudriere but could not. Its supposed work-style does not worth it. >> >> Real Work (TM) sometimes presents the need to apply patches, so >> /usr/src and /usr/obj may become are unavoidable. > > I am do w/ dedicated builhost, produce custom build of > base.txz/kernel.txz/kernel.CUSTOM.txz and applay binary updates w/ BE. > What you point? The virtual guest is stand-alone including upgrades, does not depend on build host nor its existance. >> 1GB-RAM UFS system runs just fine with such trees being stand-alone and does not require extra build system and nor its overhead. > > clang very hard to compile in 1GB RAM. It was fine before clang-[78]. Buy nowadays, yes, I'm forced to use multiple knobs for src.conf WITHOUT_LLVM_TARGET_ALL= WITH_LLVM_TARGET_X86= WITHOUT_CLANG_FULL= And using WITH_META_MODE not cleaning obj directory. > Anyway, my 1GB ZFS system run just fine. During life-time of stable/10 and early stable/11 (and not so-early) ZFS required hard tuning for 1GB i386 system to be stable because it's KVM-hog.