From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 26 13:53:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7557616A421 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:53:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com (lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com [68.99.120.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B442743D53 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:53:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dns1 ([64.58.171.82]) by lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with ESMTP id <20050526135335.EDVW6121.lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com@dns1>; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:53:35 -0400 From: Vizion To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 06:48:41 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200505251746.30206.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> <200505260552.19627.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505260648.42246.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> Cc: Ronald Klop Subject: Re: Java - intend to start a debate... X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 13:53:37 -0000 On Thursday 26 May 2005 06:41, the author Ronald Klop contributed to the dialogue on Re: Java - intend to start a debate...: >On Thu, 26 May 2005 14:52:18 +0200, Vizion > >wrote: >> On Thursday 26 May 2005 00:22, the author Ronald Klop contributed to the >> dialogue on Re: Java - intend to start a debate...: >> & On Thu, 26 May 2005 02:46:29 +0200, Vizion >> >> & wrote: >> & >> & > Hi >> & > Ok opinions please -- what do you consider the best development >> & > environment >> & > for java given: >> & > 1. need to have both server side and client side running java >> programs >> & > 2. Using apache, Tomcat and/or Jboss >> & > 3. Keeping data, presentation and processing in separate watertight >> & > comparments >> & > 4. Using sql (probably mysql) >> & > 5. Heavy use of XML input/output based on schemas - output using CSS. >> & > 6. FreeBSD 5.3 platform for staging server (probably moved to 5.4 >> before >> & > production time (early 2006) >> & > 7. Experimenting with Java 5 as well as 1.4 >> & > Arguments encouraged >> & > David >> & >> & Isn't what you describe a development environment? >> & The only thing you miss is an editor and a MVC framework like struts or >> & tapestry. >> & And Apache isn't very good in running java. :-) >> & And early 2006 you can better upgrade to 5.5 or 6.1 I think. >> & >> On yr last point I hope so.. >> >> Well I would say that the output from the development environment >> delivers >> programs & procedures designed to control those tools!! >> >> What are your opinions of struts & tapestry? > >Great software. I like the concept of tapestry more than struts, but I >didn't use them in detail. At my work we made our own framework, because >in the time we started our product the existing ones were very small >still. But our framework is property of the company. > what do you think of struts and Oracles product (its free - see andy's posting earlier today) David -- 40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Taurus. Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing May bound for Europe via Panama Canal.