From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 30 14:44:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D621065670 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:44:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from neshort@yahoo.com) Received: from web56502.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56502.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2A33F8FC26 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:44:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 88569 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Oct 2009 14:44:06 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1256913846; bh=TqvrVi7ZF5H0b+aozGNHHvefU+yNLerszhPNInzYCas=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=0n634QPoV7zS2FyBo2RoeZEQ06iDjsu9PSjK54WoGwF267D1Rtr9H6jnlI6cUnq+JxsKguvb4Bv/7jYuiVyMD2OG46Dbmed1UC1AYjNw6iE4b3L1zaWtzFl4Ahph3D6Q2tjRe4T5557J2LJ4oF7WbMOsPwXJlTEWM82eZRcilXk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Iltk3SevBKnCWq5Wd3PJBAHy6YonGMtLeahVS+qAKGZvJYO01IIGMfByUVnquWgtmUDwpVPy6iJJWbZeqji8TWowuz2x2dZC6oqvrOgBK/ACm2YH/hXXz+Vaenlts6GBnnzBg4YNEAdEJO+jFQzX8jFY9/MYjSFujzVD6W8Brqc=; Message-ID: <370279.86430.qm@web56502.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 3dP2R34VM1kRokahvv_qZYRuIjwXftvEbO.6xMvgNAL353JzRfn.iDLAZStSv7g43YRXyv_PJy4SnWeWvn9HxyEtKaAJXUiXmUnxJb28ZekfksJaY3WKMG09g96lwfKxS_6I0MNyEhYFnWEf78N1to1YFxCHQeAU2p7oINuBtQVlRiYmFjN7e3gZ84pw2GCFTDKxxaboFg5i7Wz53Muvk4cK5pVQO38JkIi9abqaDMfXZRUNxvmhEKxzj5Q_7UwvRASan.dYO_WbUmsmNbP4NjJPW0yWwmzDkm205wv0RhDetXZnmV4xAr6aCwu.PbGhYPI6rUu_WL.ncYloDVgLqNEmCqI4ptCyS8WbEoZdFY6Bm7SuCJsXq30fVnE5XsAZhqGIcZONMu0Sby1GOQok6hmZj.EOnnsAqxsRpEMKo4PXX794vojz20zvPMUFMdedQPGB9UBV3FMI1g1qUczyS4pBaQdQZLQSjdJ4wTBXEMBrR.i4UanxI59sI8l9FPhdIrfoTn97yu.UV_dXA2k- Received: from [173.84.5.162] by web56502.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 30 Oct 2009 07:44:06 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Neil Short To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20091029231539.65B9C10656D3@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Effing HAL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:44:07 -0000 > --On Thursday, October 29, 2009 16:55:58 -0500 Freminlins=20 > > wrote: > > > > I know this isn't specifically a FreeBSD problem, HAL > being needed by X. But > > the flipping installer should enable it when I > selected X flipping User from > > the install options. > > > > My little upgrade has now turned from a bit of fun > into a saga that I don't > > want to go through again. > > > > I had to get this off my chest. It was, as they say, > doing my head in. > > >=20 > Far be it from me to pile on when you're already so > frustrated, but I run into=20 > these sorts of problems myself from time to time.=A0 > It's usually because I=20 > didn't bother to read /usr/ports/UPDATING first, which in > this case might have=20 > warned you. >=20 > 20090123: > =A0 AFFECTS: users of x11-servers/xorg-server > =A0 AUTHOR: rnoland@FreeBSD.org > .... I hate to say this; but I carefully read the UPDATING log you quoted and us= ed the solution suggested - which did not work for me. It sounds like there= is some special extra installation required - and I have not found the det= ails on it. This is a very old problem. I worked on this problem until I go= t frustrated and installed Linux. I hate it and look forward to this proble= m in FBSD being fixed so I can go back. USB stuff - and ethernet divices don't work worth squat in Linux.=0A=0A=0A =