From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 11 01:00:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 708F316A47E for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 01:00:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from speedtoys.racing@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 877EA13C458 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 01:00:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from speedtoys.racing@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so256438uge for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 17:00:10 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OV3bd/WoXBLpiQMDxICjwvfIbwEED4vdZ+xV4iAIbSSmrSRckC79d4xXiuScPvm6EIbie09SOr6dr7m20TZ0+nmNQ4t1zc8XjJQkjz8iXudPycTGNjZtaOrvIrlVX8mf7CEbXbve91IfcZQQXC/UDQzc2/USmNM07rD5ktXW324= Received: by 10.82.120.15 with SMTP id s15mr209222buc.1168477210330; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 17:00:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.134.19 with HTTP; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 17:00:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 17:00:10 -0800 From: "Jeff Mohler" To: Freminlins In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45A2805E.7060000@ccstores.com> <20070109222558.GA75695@xor.obsecurity.org> <20070110003730.GA94711@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20070110154436.GA97702@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20070110161721.GA68022@mooseriver.com> <3aaaa3a0701100901j119e2566yf1718f140027f7d1@mail.gmail.com> Cc: Chris , Jerry McAllister , Nikolas Britton , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 01:00:29 -0000 > > 1 - To fix stuff that works in linux but goes to crap in freebsd, one > > such example is NFS. > > > I don't actually have a problem with FreeBSD and NFS. This is using about > 20+ clients and 2 NetApp filers. What problem are you having, rather than > just "goes to crap"? --- If for example you do a make buildworld or a kernel build (anything that uses a lot of ../.. to walk the dir structure) you will find that it is way slower than the same builds on local disk. The basic reason is that a ../.. walk invalidates cached metadata, and you end up with a pipe full of getattr's all of the time. Freebsd-fs has discussed this a bit, but no fixing is coming soon. We use linux to compile builds, we'd like to use Freebsd, but linux on Filers via NFS is about 3x faster than the same builds on Fbsd to the same filer. ../.. baby.