From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 13 20:49: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net (smtp3.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net [206.210.69.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A997F37B405 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 20:49:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 24227 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2001 04:46:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wastegate.net) (216.151.64.131) by smtp3.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net with SMTP; 14 Nov 2001 04:46:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 10474 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2001 04:46:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mother) (192.168.1.2) by 192.168.1.1 with SMTP; 14 Nov 2001 04:46:55 -0000 From: "Doug Reynolds" To: "James Buchanan" , "Joe & Fhe Barbish" , "Ted Mittelstaedt" Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 23:46:32 -0500 Reply-To: "Doug Reynolds" X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Professional (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (5.0.2195;2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: Software on FreeBSD (Has FBSD4.4 grown up yet) Message-Id: <20011114044902.A997F37B405@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 02:12:28 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Joe & Fhe >>Barbish >> >>Bottom line FBSD is a learning playground, that you will have to work hard >>to gain a understanding of what is going on. FBSD may be a very reliable and >>fast system once you get it up and configured the way you want it, but you >>had better be willing to invest mega time to get there. For a newbe with >>out any prier Unix background, 200 hours for bare bones out of the box, and >>1500 hours for full system with mail, www, desktop, firewall, and IP to >>local PC with access to internet. > >This is exactly why I wrote my book, and Annelise wrote her book, and >there's a few other ones out there too. Those assume a newbie to >FreeBSD, her's in fact assumes not only a newbie to FreeBSD but a newbie >to the concept of running any kind of computer operating system. > >If you use those then you will find out that your 200 hours is shortened >to maybe 20 hours, and your 1500 hours is shortened to maybe 100. geez 1500 hrs?? I'm lucky if I have 50 hrs in my whole setup and it doesn't crash. the only problem i have is a carrier detect bug in multilink ppp --- doug reynolds | the maverick | mav@wastegate.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message