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Date:      Fri, 08 Jan 1999 08:11:54 +0000
From:      Mark Ovens <marko@uk.radan.com>
To:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
Cc:        walton@nordicdms.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Complete FreeBSD, 3rd edition (was: Printed man pages (was: Looking  for the best webmaster.))
Message-ID:  <3695BDCA.DF6317A2@uk.radan.com>
References:  <36936F9C.33BAFF88@uk.radan.com> <19990108125205.J92409@freebie.lemis.com>

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Greg Lehey wrote:
> 
> On Wednesday,  6 January 1999 at 14:13:48 +0000, Mark Ovens wrote:
> > Dave Walton wrote:
> >>
> >> On 5 Jan 99, at 21:52, Graeme Tait wrote:
> >>
> >>> Greg Lehey wrote:
> >>>> The general consensus is that the man pages are a waste of space, and
> >>>> they make the book too heavy.  The next edition won't have them.
> >
> > What plans do you have for the next edition, Greg?. Timescales,
> > changes etc?
> 
> I'm hoping to have it out by April.  I'm open to suggestions about
> what should be included.
> 

FWIW, I would suggest that large HD's (multi-GB), LBA, the infamous
1024 cyl limit etc. are addressed. e.g. that you can install FreeBSD
above 1024 cyls on an (E)IDE disk using LBA and on SCSI if you boot
from the first partition with a boot mangler. The partition schemes in
the book only cover small disks IIRC.

> >> What I'd like to see is the "Selected man pages" section turn into
> >> "Essential man pages".  That is, man pages for the commands you
> >> need when you find yourself poking around in single user mode
> >> trying to figure out ed enough to fix things.  Yes, there have been a
> >> couple of times I would have killed for a printed ed man page --
> >> please put that one on the list!  And, as  Graeme points out,
> >> disklabel and newfs are good candidates, too.
> >
> > Might also be worth considering including some of the very long
> > ones.
> 
> That's how the Second Edition got so big.  The First Edition didn't
> have so many long man pages.
> 
> I think the better approach would be to consider a man pages book.  We
> had thought of this back in 1995, but we never got round to doing it.
> What do you people think?  The question isn't ``is it a good idea?'',
> it's ``would you buy one?''.

It would be a good idea, especially if WC offered the 2 books as a
bundle at a decent saving over the 2 separate books. It would
certainly make CFBSD easy to handle ;-)

> 
> Greg
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  was this thinking that caused the problem in the first place.

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