From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 7 15:48:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAC1A106566B for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 15:48:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC5648FC0A for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 15:48:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn33 with SMTP id 33so4673474iwn.13 for ; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 07:48:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.150.71 with SMTP id z7mr5199885icv.28.1299512883003; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 07:48:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from tech304 (supranet-tech.secure-on.net [66.170.8.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g4sm2581081ick.11.2011.03.07.07.48.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 07 Mar 2011 07:48:02 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 09:48:00 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Mark Felder" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.01 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: HAL must die! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 15:48:04 -0000 On Mon, 07 Mar 2011 08:32:59 -0600, Ivan Voras wrote: > Um, why exactly are so many people against HAL? HAL is deprecated now. All projects using HAL are in the process or have already migrated away from it. KDE has pluggable backends, so that's not a big deal, but XFCE doesn't support anything but udisks/udev/upower. The BSD community will have to supply their own patchset to achieve the same functionality. GNOME should be heading in the same direction if it hasn't already. Unfortunately, we're going to be without a cross-platform solution. Hopefully other projects will follow KDE and allow us to easily supply our own backend to powerd and devd. Regards, Mark