From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 4 17:24:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DFCA37B401; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 17:24:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from canning.wemm.org (canning.wemm.org [192.203.228.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0509A43E3B; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 17:24:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by canning.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1443B2A89E; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 17:24:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey Cc: Terry Lambert , Emiel Kollof , Poul-Henning Kamp , n0go013 , current Subject: Re: [ GEOM tests ] disklabel warnings and vinum drives lost In-Reply-To: <20021005001422.GP72541@wantadilla.lemis.com> Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 17:24:10 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20021005002410.1443B2A89E@canning.wemm.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Friday, 4 October 2002 at 16:03:24 -0700, Peter Wemm wrote: > > Terry Lambert wrote: > >> Emiel Kollof wrote: > >>> * Peter Wemm (peter@wemm.org) wrote: > >>>> vinum is so much unbelievable stuff in it. Consider this stuff: > >>>> > >>>> sys/dev/vinum/vinumio.c: > >> > >> [ ... ] > >> > >>>> This crud has *got* to be taken out and shot, then reworked to do it > >>>> properly. > >>> > >>> Amen! (and no, I'm not volunteering. I don't mind cleaning up code, but t he > > re > >>> are limits to what crud I touch) > >> > >> > >> FWIW: > >> > >> The comment right before that code is: > >> > >> /* > >> * Yes, Bruce, I know this is horrible, but we > >> * don't have a root file system when we first > >> * try to do this. If you can come up with a > >> * better solution, I'd really like it. I'm > >> * just putting it in now to add ammuntion to > >> * moving the system to devfs. > >> */ > >> > >> ...basically, when devfs became default, the person who made it > >> default did not maintain this code, when they converted everything > >> else over to using it. > >> > >> The assumption here is that the devfs will be available to the > >> system before the root is mounted transparently over it. > > > > Actually no, this is only used *after* root is mounted. > > Now. Vinum supported the root file system years ago, but there were > objections to the code. This was a temporary hack which was supposed > to go away quickly, but then there was some pressure for me to give up > maintainership, so I did, and Vinum has had very little maintenance > since. I had a look around and couldn't find any real traces of it in the cvs history. I recall a patch being posted somewhere but do not remember it being committed for some reason (bootblock issues?). > >> Another alternative is to disable support for mounting vinum plexes > >> as the root filesystem, which is what this code supposedly > >> supports. > > > > Nope. Vinum doesn't support booting with a plex as a root file > > system. I can't quite say that I understand what this is for though. > > namei() etc are perfectly usable at this point. > > It did. .. but not committed to FreeBSD as far as I can tell. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message