From owner-freebsd-ia64 Sun Sep 9 10:46: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D01DC37B403 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 10:46:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [62.49.251.130] (helo=herring.nlsystems.com) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 15g8ed-0002Q3-0W; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 18:45:59 +0100 Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f89Hiic64815; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 18:44:44 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 18:44:20 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Marcel Moolenaar Cc: Subject: Re: Ski port In-Reply-To: <20010909101700.A531@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> Message-ID: <20010909184220.K406-100000@salmon.nlsystems.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 9 Sep 2001, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 05:44:02PM +0100, Doug Rabson wrote: > > On Sun, 9 Sep 2001, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > > > > We're currently not really interested in userland code, so we're > > > going to run ski in "raw" mode anyway. I should be able to hack > > > something together that allows us to work on a real EFI bootloader. > > > With a combination of fake and real ACPI entries we should be able > > > to boot a kernel as if it was running on real hardware, right? > > > > > > > That would probably be pretty useful. It sounds like a *lot* of work > > though. EFI is pretty extensive. > > Yes, it would be a lot of work. And I can imagine that the ski owners > are not going to keep the feature if it wasn't done right. I think > it's good to have. I just want to make sure I spend my time well and > not waste it on a feature that will never complete and/or won't be > used. Before you start, I suggest you pick up a copy of the EFI sample implementation source and have a look at that. Actually, having that source around is pretty useful for clarifying bits of the EFI spec. > > Another thought struck me. As soon as we have our own toolchain, we > probably will use DBX as the debugging format and not dwarf. I'd > better make sure that ski supports DBX if we want it to be as useful > then as it is now. I have no idea what format is considered best these days. I thought that dwarf2 was the direction things were moving in though. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Phone: +44 20 8348 6160 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ia64" in the body of the message