From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 26 11:24:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B3BC106564A; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:24:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from harvey.two.face.kent@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982AE8FC0A; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:24:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wye20 with SMTP id 20so4062919wye.13 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 04:24:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=1hVbz0CtR83UrybUqd/kMIl2ihwSTZ5c6UDwyDyuAXU=; b=mPF0EOmyWTvHQcJnqpGNDftV2Ca2NTmEyDYfLKRLOU1HudMr2hN9i7RRo3kESrxcx5 SRIoG5p7aN6mRtnrdmXbt48U12/PIk2SIqPtrYSe+6mAnqs95/mpQxCplahpG7ODKaJF XOXIduyb0lLC+Ja2UcqTSAhvGl5V9MIHKUl0w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=PU5RYH1DfmM+Q3gmaRF2tNMf3wSKIzdEuP/DXsndvib476Q72ACRPmVmK3P09FbLTy OQQPdQ17MxPAnH7JxXoVxiFAPmjYy7/3uyIrGbi3b5f4cCCFqIoHRs2DcRtO9lm+rWlR lin+LopkM2K4pxhE8/4srMnx9qSOQexTX00jk= Received: by 10.216.86.208 with SMTP id w58mr5088572wee.45.1272281061232; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 04:24:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.25.141 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 04:24:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1272272428.29962.30.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <4BCEF432.7070707@gmail.com> <4BCEFC8E.2070409@gmail.com> <4BD0B51F.60308@gmail.com> <4BD12B9E.4090606@gmail.com> <1272272428.29962.30.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> From: harvey dent Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 13:24:01 +0200 Message-ID: To: Da Rock Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Ivailo Tanusheff , Paul B Mahol , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lighten kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:24:29 -0000 Ok I understand. Thank you very much for your answer. On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Da Rock < freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au> wrote: > On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 07:09 +0200, xyz wrote: > > Those numbers mean the size in mo, of linux kernel (3.2mo), and freebsd > > kernel (33,9mo) for the same hardware configuration. > > > > Linux is based more on a minimalist kernel with user mode modules - add > the modules and you'll find its larger, or take away the modules out of > the FreeBSD kernel to get a more accurate reading. > > FreeBSD uses kernel mode modules; so it makes it faster, but it makes > the kernel "look" bigger. > > And to stave off a flame session, these comments are very subjective and > many will argue on both sides, but the proof is in the pudding as far as > I'm concerned - I run both and my linux is CRAP by my reckoning. My > drivers on the linux break constantly, and render the system useless > without a reboot (and I'm NOT saying that it is anywhere near as bad as > Windows: if I only had a choice of the two the linux would win for > stability). My FreeBSD's have NEVER needed rebooting except for > extraordinary circumstances, and the top stats don't lie either. > > > Is it difficult to update the patch? > > > > > > On 04/22/10 23:54, Paul B Mahol wrote: > > > On 4/22/10, xyz wrote: > > > > > >> Hi > > >> Thank you for your answer > > >> But "I can't believe" that lighten the kernel of useless drivers, > saves > > >> only few bytes, by removing whole useless modules (sound, ata/sata, > agp...). > > >> Furthermore, I think about free space that could be save too, in the > > >> hard drive this time. > > >> Why for the same configuration, linux kernel is lighter than the > Freebsd > > >> kernel? (3.2mo ; 33.9mo) > > >> > > > Can you be more specific? What those numbers mean? > > > > > > > > >> And, can you release your patch please? > > >> > > > I can, but it may be out of sync. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >