From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Mar 13 16:45:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (ha1.rdc1.ct.home.com [24.2.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0E4237B655 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 16:43:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tsikora@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.2.168.186]) by mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with ESMTP id <20000314004332.XGKI24587.mail.rdc1.ct.home.com@home.com>; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 16:43:32 -0800 Message-ID: <38CD8B02.C2D293F5@home.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 19:42:42 -0500 From: Ted Sikora Reply-To: tsikora@powerusersbbs.com Organization: Jtl Development X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en-US,en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Pedro F. Giffuni" Cc: "freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: 5.0 features? References: <38CD276F.3213C800@asme.org> <38CD87C6.16AB6D3F@home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG root wrote: > > "Pedro F. Giffuni" wrote: > > > > FWIW, > > > > I downloaded the BSDI 4.1 Release notes and I was surprised by the > > quality of the document. It goes through the basics of installing and > > configuring BSDI. > It is nice. I use it in our webhosting servers. Hi-Performance in my > book. > > > > I think the priority will be getting BSDI binaries running on FreeBSD, > > so I would expect: > > > > -New tools to complement binutils (they also use egcs), no idea if the > > use that nasty ldconfig. > > -Many changes to libc. > > -Native ports of their packaging tools. > > -Ability to mount their disks? > > > > Any idea if BSDI has a unified VM? They carry ISODE and several > > unsupported goodies like LFS, the OSI stack, X25... Their floppy driver > > also supports 2.8 M floppies, which I recall don't work on FreeBSD. > > > > Towards the future I would expect: > > -More SMP stuff (and more threading) > > -New Platforms: SPARC, PowerPC, StrongARM. > > -Clustering: probably MOSIX. > > > > I am not sure if BSDI has a Motif source license, but this is something > > I would prefer to buy from them in a future. In fact, now that there is > > a big company to deal with, I would expect many more commercial products > > available. > Same here. I still prefer Motif. > > How about Java support? Sun is releasing some nice tools to OpenSource > like Forge, etc. At one point I found FreeBSD > better suited than Linux for java development but that has > changed with 1.2's release. Too bad we couldn't conjur up some more > interest here. Sun uses it in some cool ways. No reason we couldn't. The > new generation of Java apps are starting to look > and run pretty good. > > > > > I really don't see what can be negative in this merger (in fact that > > discussion is finally dying in -chat so please redirect new arguments > > there :). IMHO, BSDI will probably end up being a FreeBSD with POSIX and > > C2 certifications, and excellent support...I'm sure big companies like > > Yahoo wouldn't care to pay some bucks for the extra support. > > > Future looks bright indeed! I was so preoccupied listening to everyone > bitching I forgot about all the nice things to come. > > > (And BTW. if people are really worried about drivers perhaps it's time > > for them to really look at the UDI project.) > > If anyone's interested RealPlayer7 just came out today. It's works excellent under Linux Emulation. Includes most of the features of the Win/Mac versions and has a working plugin. I just installed it under (ahem!)5.0-current with Netscape-4.72. I know some of you will scoff(at linux emulation) but hey It's cool. All work and no play.... -- Ted Sikora Jtl Development Group tsikora@powerusersbbs.com http://powerusersbbs.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message