From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 6 2:43:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from isy.liu.se (isy.liu.se [130.236.48.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9598437B409 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 02:43:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mj@isy.liu.se) Received: from lagrange.isy.liu.se (lagrange.isy.liu.se [130.236.49.127]) by isy.liu.se (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f569hfT15284; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:43:41 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <001001c0ee56$53838420$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 11:43:54 +0200 (CEST) From: Micke Josefsson To: Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: RE: OT question -- Books on OS basics Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, GoodleafJ@immunex.com Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There is a hardware oriented book called Computer Architecture by Retter et al. It focuses on how to make a generic RISC in hardware but goes into DETAIL on what the OS expects from a processor. And also runs into different filesystem approaches and definately expects the OS to be unixlike. I have had many hours of fun with this book. (says perhaps more about me than about he book:) On 06-Jun-01 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > Lest we forget, "The Design and Implementation of the > 4.4 BSD Operating System" by Kirk McKusick is another > one on OS theory. > > Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com > Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide > Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of >>GoodleafJ@immunex.com >>Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 9:39 AM >>To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >>Subject: Re: OT question -- Books on OS basics >> >> >>Thanks for the responses so far. As always, I appreciate everyone's >>willingness to help. In this case though I probably didn't explain well >>what I was looking for. I was hoping for theory books on operating systems. >>I'm already acquainted with The Complete FreeBSD and the Handbook. (Thanks >>though.) I want something that will explain different approaches to virtual >>memory, or how the softupdates approach to filesystem management is >>different from the journaling filesystem approach. So I'm not looking >>specifically for FreeBSD stuff, but for OS stuff on a more abstract plane. >>Thanks, >>John >> >> >> >> >> "Jonathan >> >> Slivko" To: >>, jeremy-novak >> > >> e.edu> Subject: Re: OT >>question -- Books on OS basics >> >> >> 06/05/01 >> >> 09:29 AM >> >> Please >> >> respond to >> >> js43064n >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>"The FreeBSD Handbook" (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook) is also >>available in hardcover, it's a very good book :) >>-- Jonathan >> >>------------------------------------------ >>Jonathan M. Slivko >>Network Admin., DataSyrge Internet S. >>Server Co-Admin., AsylumNet IRC Network >>http://www.asylum-net.org -- check us out! >> >>Pager/Voicemail: (917) 388-5304 (24 Hours) >>------------------------------------------ >> >> >> >>---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >>From: jeremy-novak >>Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 10:16:27 -0600 >> >>>On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 08:27:53AM -0700, GoodleafJ@immunex.com >> >>wrote: >>>> For personal reasons, I'm interested in learning about >> >>operating systems >>>> from a theoretical perspective. Here's the thing: >>>> >>>> - I don't have a background in computer science. >>>> - I need something basic. >>>> - Please recommend something if you know of a good book(s). >>>> >>>> I'm prepared to accept the possibility that there is no basic >> >>book on >>>> operating systems accessible to a reasonably computer-saavy >> >>person with no >>>> CS background. In this case, can you suggest an intro to CS >> >>that might give >>>> me a background from which to proceed? >>>> >>>> In short, I'd like to get up to speed, and I'm willing to do >> >>any amount of >>>> reading; I just want the shortest path first, so to speak. >>>> >>>> Thanks for your time, >>>> John >>> >>> Hi John >>> >>> Unfortunately I really don't know what single book covers this >> >>topic. This very topic is a two years of coursework at my >> >>university. And honesstly I really >>> don't know a whole lot about Micro$oft, haven't played with it >> >>for a couple of years. I can tell you that 'The Complete FreeBSD' >> >>by Greg Lehey and published >>> by Walnut Creek CDROM Books http://www.cdrom.com/ is the best >> >>starter book >>> for anything in the *nix category. It covers some history, >> >>comparitive >>> differences between *nix and MS structure/commands, easy to >> >>understand >>> chapters on all key phases of running the OS. If you are just >> >>looking for >>> a book that will not bruise the brain too much, yet be very >> >>educational >>> and have the ability to intelligently compare the 'popular' >> >>OS's, this is >>> 'the' book. >>> >>> But be carefull john. I did some similar research in 96'-97', >> >>and I got >>> toatally hooked. Today I don't own one single piece of M$ >> >>software. >>> To quote 'a famous greek phillosopher' - "Once the mind is >> >>stretched by >>> new ideas, it can never re-take it's former shape". I 'was' a >> >>junior year >>> finance major who willing and ready, threw it all away to become >> >>a C.S. major. >>> >>> Jeremy >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>>with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >>> >> >> >>__________________________________________________________________ >>____ >>Sent via the Pace University Mail system at stmail.pace.edu >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >> > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message ---------------------------------- Michael Josefsson, MSEE mj@isy.liu.se This message was sent by XFMail running on FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message