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Date:      Wed, 23 May 2001 10:00:46 +0200
From:      Michael Radzewitz <michael.radzewitz@freenet-ag.de>
To:        "'security@freebsd.org'" <security@freebsd.org>
Subject:   RE: apache_logs/system hang up
Message-ID:  <E07E5FD109B8D411842200508BD3C5E601919644@staff.freenet-ag.de>

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Hello Marc,

the system wasn't able to do anything so that i had to reset it by hand.
Tonight the same thing happend. Acctually I would think there must be
something wrong on my site. The characters contain nothing else
than hundreds of these: ^@^@^@ 
They do not look like a typically binary file. It's always the same 
corner of the internet which one of my users visit and which causes the
trouble one minute later. 

Today I plugged a monitor in to see what happend and i got the message:

login: unable to login

followed by a kernel panic and the normal core dump output of a linux
system.

As I mentioned before I thing there is something wrong on my site 
but I am a little bit concerned about the: unable to login message.
I will monitor this problem until the end of the week - maybe i get some
more information about it. Later than I will swap the system to FreeBSD.  


Thank's Michael




> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Marc Rogers [mailto:marcr@shady.org]
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. Mai 2001 00:55
> An: Michael Radzewitz
> Betreff: Re: apache_logs/system hang up
> 
> 
> 
> When you mean hang, do you mean that it was unresponsive,
> or do you mean that you actualy tried to get a response from
> a console keyboard? 
> 
> In my experience an attack is more likely to suck resources from
> a system, making it unresponsive, or very very slow to respond.
> 
> A complete lockup is most often caused by a hardware issue.
> 
> when you mention "non ascii" characters, do you mean special
> ascii characters, such as ^@ ^M ï Ä etc? Was it a similar
> effect to reading a binary file?
> 
> 
> Marc Rogers
> Technical Director
> European Data Corporation
> 
> On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 05:13:35PM +0200, Michael Radzewitz wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > i've have posted this question before without a subject.
> > sorry for that and please ignore the last mail. 
> > 
> > Once again...
> > 
> > ...a short question because i am concerned about a log entry
> > in the apache access and error logs.
> > 
> > Last night I had to reset my system because it hangs.
> > Today I've found two entry's in the logfiles mentioned
> > above. They contain lots of non assci characters.
> > I am not able to get some more information about the
> > content. For me it seems to be binary-code.
> > 
> > The log entry looks something like this
> > 
> > lot's of:        ^@^@^@ttp://www.    followed by the address 
> >                     |
> >                     |
> >                  my editor
> >                  display it like this (vim)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I'm wondering if it's possible to send such informations over the
> > http-protcol which causes the apache and the rest of the system to 
> > hang up or maybe it's just a hang up because god knows what went
> > wrong at that time with the hard or software.
> > 
> > Maybe one of you had the same problem or any other idea.
> > 
> > Thank's in advance
> > 
> > Michael 
> > 
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