From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 28 14:43:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8915A106564A; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:43:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B988FC1E; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:43:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 63.imp.bsdimp.com (63.imp.bsdimp.com [10.0.0.63] (may be forged)) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p2SEWNsm011958; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 08:32:23 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <20110328110807.GA44745@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 08:32:24 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <16FA7C02-86B0-46E6-A923-BC61357478FA@vicor.com> <1BC34FC3-7526-4DAA-964A-DDFD465DB830@bsdimp.com> <20110328110807.GA44745@freebsd.org> To: Alexander Best X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Cc: FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: New Boot-Loader X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:43:49 -0000 On Mar 28, 2011, at 5:08 AM, Alexander Best wrote: > On Sun Mar 27 11, Warner Losh wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >> On Mar 27, 2011, at 10:48 PM, Devin Teske wrote: >>> Replacement Boot-Loader: twitpic.com/4e46ol >>>=20 >>> NOTE: The final release will have a single-user mode option. >>=20 >> This looks really cool. Nice to see a fresh look for the boot = loader... >=20 > sorry if we have different opinions on this matter, but i don't quite = see > the "fresh" look. >=20 > imo a "modern" boot loader looks like this >=20 > http://www.dailycupoftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/ubuntu01.png >=20 > or this >=20 > = http://images.linuxscreenshots.com/distro/opensuse/11.3/h400/01_boot_menu.= png >=20 > ... and not something made out of ascii chars like it's 1981. ;) Fresh here means "not looking exactly like it has since 1995"... Where = we wind up might not be this prototype, but it should spur discussions. Warner=