From owner-freebsd-arch Thu Jan 30 5: 5:52 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282AF37B401 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 05:05:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net (bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B496343E4A for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 05:05:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0033.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.192.33] helo=mindspring.com) by bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18eEO4-0004P6-00; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 05:05:49 -0800 Message-ID: <3E3922DA.55D9CDE9@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 05:04:26 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Schultz Cc: "Andrew R. Reiter" , Scott Long , arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PAE (was Re: bus_dmamem_alloc_size()) References: <3E385A1E.629EB694@mindspring.com> <20030130064800.GB7258@HAL9000.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: b1a02af9316fbb217a47c185c03b154d40683398e744b8a4b6c3fe537de370fad53262b1bcc4eccca7ce0e8f8d31aa3f350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Schultz wrote: > Thus spake Terry Lambert : > > "Andrew R. Reiter" wrote: > > > Anyone know the status of PAE in fBSD? I heard rumors awhile back that > > > people had patches, or Y! had patches... but has anyone actually coughed > > > them up? > > > > Contact Paul Saab. > > A year ago, the rumor was that DG was eventually going to do it. > Six months ago it was Peter Wemm. And now Paul Saab?! Sheesh. > Why don't we just wait another few years so 64-bit machines solve > all our problems and we don't have to hack up the VM system? ;-) PSE36 is more intelligent than PAE, but neither one are very smart; they were put there by hardware people who thought that what software people wanted was more processes in RAM, not more RAM in individual processes. As such, they are a generally bad idea. Most people asking the question seem to have bought into the hardware people's picture of the universe, without understanding that. 8-(. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message