From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Oct 20 12:54:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA15508 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 12:54:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received: from trojanhorse.ml.org (mdean.vip.best.com [206.86.94.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA15497; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 12:53:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jamil@trojanhorse.ml.org) Received: from localhost (jamil@localhost) by trojanhorse.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA28921; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 12:53:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 12:53:15 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jamil J. Weatherbee" To: Randall Hopper cc: Kristian Kennaway , "Jonathan M. Bresler" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pulling email addresses from freebsd lists In-Reply-To: <19971020111316.33689@ct.picker.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk One thing that might help is possibly assigning handles to email addresses on freebsd.org like 189291@freebsd.org = jamil@trojanhorse.ml.org and only allowing mail from other handles on that list to be redirected through freebsd.org to the mailer It would be much less likely for a spammer to attack because they would half to attack from a subscribed account. Or something like this... On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Randall Hopper wrote: > Kristian Kennaway: > |I'd just like to note that today I received my first ever spam-mail, > |after posting to this list for the first time a few days ago. Until now > |I've been successfully "hiding" by not having my email address make it > |out onto UseNet or anywhere else grepped by spammers. > > Jonathan M. Bresler: > | we seem to be seeing a new tactic, > | evil spammer subscribes and harvests addresses from the > | list traffic. > > > I'd hazard a guess that the spammers aren't harvesting from the list e-mail > distribution directly but from NetNews (because of those numerous > list-to-NetNews gateways that some folks in the world funnel the FreeBSD > list traffic into). These pseudo-groups get out and into spam farmer > newsrc's without any real action on their part. Easy pickins'. > > If I didn't choose to post to NetNews with my real e-mail address anyway, > I'd complain about these news gateways. As is, I just grin and have some > fun bustin' spammers with their ISPs. And procmail bounce rules to > postmaster,abuse,root for those ISPs that don't seem to care. > > Randall > >