From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 25 21:15:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 664) id 051A9C87; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 21:15:23 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:15:22 -0700 From: David O'Brien To: Marcel Moolenaar , Garrett Cooper , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, "Simon J. Gerraty" Subject: Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program Message-ID: <20121025211522.GA32636@dragon.NUXI.org> Mail-Followup-To: obrien@freebsd.org, Marcel Moolenaar , Garrett Cooper , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, "Simon J. Gerraty" References: <201210020750.23358.jhb@freebsd.org> <201210021037.27762.jhb@freebsd.org> <127FA63D-8EEE-4616-AE1E-C39469DDCC6A@xcllnt.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <127FA63D-8EEE-4616-AE1E-C39469DDCC6A@xcllnt.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT X-to-the-FBI-CIA-and-NSA: HI! HOW YA DOIN? can i haz chizburger? User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 21:15:23 -0000 On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 09:11:29AM -0700, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > two independent efforts (ATF & bmake) and there was no indication that > one would be greatly benefitted from the other. At least not to the > point of creating a dependency. It seems we do have the situation where folks feel there is a dependency between the two. > Before we can switch permanently to bmake, we need to do the following > first: > 1. Request an EXP ports build with bmake as make(1). This should tell > us the "damage" of switching to bmake for ports. > 2. In parallel with 1: build www & docs with bmake and assess the > damage > 3. Fix all the damage > > It could be a while (many weeks) before we get to 4, so the question Given the time this will take, I feel we need to add another knob to the Bmake build so that 'make world' gives one both the FreeBSD make as /usr/bin/make and Bmake as /usr/bin/bmake. thoughts, -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org)