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Date:      Thu, 29 Aug 2013 13:27:58 +0200
From:      David Demelier <demelier.david@gmail.com>
To:        mva@freebsd.org
Cc:        python@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [CFT] lang/python becoming a python binary wrapper
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2013/8/29 Marcus von Appen <mva@freebsd.org>:
> David Demelier <demelier.david@gmail.com>:
>
>
>> 2013/8/29 Marcus von Appen <mva@freebsd.org>:
>>>
>>> David Demelier <demelier.david@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> It's weird, I still have some conflicts with the new wrappers:
>>>>
>>>> Proceed with installing packages [y/N]: y
>>>> Checking integrity...
>>>> Conflict found on path /usr/local/bin/2to3-3 between
>>>> python2-3(lang/python2) and python3-3(lang/python3)
>>>>
>>>> Conflict found on path /usr/local/bin/idle3 between
>>>> python2-3(lang/python2) and python3-3(lang/python3)
>>>>
>>>> Conflict found on path /usr/local/bin/pydoc3 between
>>>> python2-3(lang/python2) and python3-3(lang/python3)
>>>>
>>>> Conflict found on path /usr/local/bin/python-shared3 between
>>>> python2-3(lang/python2) and python3-3(lang/python3)
>>>>
>>>> Conflict found on path /usr/local/bin/python-shared3-config between
>>>> python2-3(lang/python2) and python3-3(lang/python3)
>>>>
>>>> Conflict found on path /usr/local/bin/python3 between
>>>> python2-3(lang/python2) and python3-3(lang/python3)
>>>>
>>>> Conflict found on path /usr/local/bin/python3-config between
>>>> python2-3(lang/python2) and python3-3(lang/python3)
>>>>
>>>> Why 2to3-3 conflicts since it should only be installed by python3.3 ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> How do you install the packages exactly? Where do you take them from and
>>> what are your relevant settings in /etc/make.conf and friends?
>>>
>>> The installation/deinstallation procedure using the ports tree works
>>> flawlessly (to my knowledge and tests), so I would guess that you are
>>> using
>>> pkgng? If oyu are using pkgng and are building the packages yourself,
>>> your
>>> poudriere settings or whatever you are using to build the packages would
>>> be relevant as well.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Marcus
>>>
>>
>> Hi, the poudriere settings were from the last mail I've sent you on
>> the list a few weeks ago. I typically have :
>>
>> * One jail called "desktop". No make.conf, it uses the defaults.
>> (Except for databases version but it does not matter here)
>>
>> * One jail called python-33. The make.conf has :
>>
>> PYTHON_DEFAULT_VERSION=         python3.3
>> PYTHON3_DEFAULT_VERSION=        python3.3
>>
>> * One jail clled python-27. The make.conf has:
>>
>> PYTHON_DEFAULT_VERSION=         python2.7
>>
>> * Finally I have a experimental jail for mate desktop, with no
>> make.conf so python 2.7 is chosen and built as default.
>>
>> Then I use all of these repositories, the desktop is the default
>> packagesite, while python-27 python-33 and mate are other repositories
>> but enabled.
>>
>> And the pkg upgrade does the following :
>>
>> # pkg upgrade
>> Updating repository catalogue
>> Uprgades have been requested for the following 94 packages:
>>
>>     Installing python3: 3 [python33]
>>     Upgrading curl: 7.31.0 -> 7.31.0_1 [python33]
>>     Upgrading ffmpeg1: 1.2.1_1 -> 1.2.2 [python33]
>>     Upgrading firefox: 22.0,1 -> 23.0.1,1 [packagesite]
>>     Upgrading firefox-i18n: 22.0 -> 23.0.1 [packagesite]
>>     Upgrading libgd: 2.0.35_9,1 -> 2.1.0_1,1 [python33]
>>     Upgrading git: 1.8.3.3_1 -> 1.8.3.4 [python27]
>>     Upgrading glew: 1.9.0 -> 1.10.0 [python27]
>>     Upgrading gnupg: 2.0.20_1 -> 2.0.21 [python33]
>>     Upgrading graphviz: 2.30.1 -> 2.32.0 [python27]
>>     Upgrading gsl: 1.15_1 -> 1.16 [packagesite]
>>     Upgrading iceauth: 1.0.5 -> 1.0.6 [packagesite]
>>     Upgrading libXfont: 1.4.5,1 -> 1.4.6,1 [python33]
>>     Upgrading liblqr-1: 0.4.1_4 -> 0.4.1_5 [python33]
>>     Upgrading libwpd: 0.9.8 -> 0.9.9 [packagesite]
>>     Upgrading lua: 5.1.5_5 -> 5.1.5_6 [python33]
>>     Upgrading lua: 5.2.2 -> 5.2.2_1 [packagesite]
>>     Upgrading mercurial: 2.6.3 -> 2.7_1 [python33]
>>     Upgrading p5-Socket: 2.010 -> 2.011 [python33]
>>     Upgrading python: 2.7_1,2 -> 3.3_1,2 [python33]
>>     Upgrading python2: 2 -> 3 [python33]
>>     Upgrading qt4-corelib: 4.8.4_3 -> 4.8.4_4 [python33]
>>     Upgrading thunderbird: 17.0.7 -> 17.0.8 [packagesite]
>>     Upgrading tmux: 1.8 -> 1.8_1 [packagesite]
>>     Upgrading xprop: 1.2.1 -> 1.2.2 [python33]
>>     Upgrading xset: 1.2.2_1 -> 1.2.3_1 [python33]
>>     Upgrading xwd: 1.0.5 -> 1.0.6 [packagesite]
>>     Upgrading zsh: 5.0.2 -> 5.0.2_1 [packagesite]
>>     Upgrading p5-IO-Socket-IP: 0.21 -> 0.22 [python33]
>>     Upgrading p5-IO-Socket-SSL: 1.94 -> 1.953 [python33]
>>     ...
>>
>> I think the problem comes from here:
>>
>>     Upgrading python: 2.7_1,2 -> 3.3_1,2 [python33]
>>     Upgrading python2: 2 -> 3 [python33]
>>
>> Is the make.conf incorrect for the jail python3.3 ? I just want to be
>> able to produce both versions of pythons modules to 2.7 and 3.3 so I
>> can develop with python 3.3 and still use some applications that
>> requires python 2.7.
>
>
> No it is not incorrect. It most likely is an issue with propagating the
> version
> information (PYTHON_DEFAULT_VERSION/PYTHON_VERSION) from bsd.python.mk to
> the
> meta ports lang/python2 and lang/python3, which results in the conflict.
> I'll
> check this later on, when I created some jails similar to your
> configuration.
> It might take a couple of hours or days, but it won't be forgotten ;-).
>
>
>> Just to recall the beginning of our discuss, the idea was to be able
>> to pkg upgrade / install both python interpreter without regarding if
>> they are the default (so no 2to3 are installed as conflicts).
>
>
> Exactly.
>
> Cheers
> Marcus
>

Thank you very much on your interest on that issue. I really would
like to get python 2.7 and 3.3 modules built so my users (and
everyone) will be happy. Lot of Linux distributions does not provide
these modules for both python interpreters.

I want FreeBSD to go ahead on that and let users install what they
want on which version or even both :-).

Cheers,

-- 
Demelier David



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