From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 12:16:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED0E416A4B3 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:16:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twoface.shiftmanager.net (adsl-64-170-199-98.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [64.170.199.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C4243FBD for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:16:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kwerle@pobox.com) Received: from mail.shiftmanager.net (localhost.shiftmanager.net [127.0.0.1]) h9MJJg2q031768; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:19:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kwerle@pobox.com) Received: from 64.170.199.99 (SquirrelMail authenticated user kurt) by mail.shiftmanager.net with HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <50832.64.170.199.99.1066850382.squirrel@mail.shiftmanager.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:19:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "Kurt Werle" To: "Greg Lewis" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsddom and java's flaming hoops X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:16:35 -0000 > On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 11:34:55AM -0700, Kurt Werle wrote: >> For that, I shouldn't need to jump hoops. (NOTE >> **SHOULD** not need to - this is the ideal) > > You're somewhat misguided here. > > Fact 1: Downloading a Java binary for Solaris/Linux/Windows from the Java > site requires you to agree to a click through license. I just downloaded the windows installer without clicking anything but "Download". http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp Looks like I can do the same for Solaris and Linux. Why isn't FreeBSD on that list? NOTE: I KNOW the FreeBSD folks don't control that site. But if Linux is there, FreeBSD should be, too. > Let me repeat myself. I know of at least one FreeBSD vendor who plans to > do this for the FreeBSD 4.9 release. If you're willing to repeat yourself, so am I :-) Who? > Again though, you are complaining to the wrong people. > Noone here can force a FreeBSD vendor to put Java on their FreeBSD CD-ROMs. There may be FreeBSD vendors listening to this list. This IS the list to talk about freebsd-java, after all. Kurt