From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 6 17:35:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from titan.aye.net (titan.aye.net [198.7.207.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A37C14C1C for ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 17:35:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from barrett@phoenix.aye.net) Received: from localhost (barrett@localhost) by titan.aye.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA28848; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 20:34:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from barrett@phoenix.aye.net) X-Authentication-Warning: titan.aye.net: barrett owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 20:34:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Barrett Richardson X-Sender: barrett@titan.aye.net To: Chris Cook Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: 2 queries] In-Reply-To: <37AC60F1.918DD6C2@tcworks.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Well, I try to keep things simple. Fact is, a router has less to break > down than > a "Gateway Machine", and the router is designed for that specific task. > You don't > usually have to worry about people compromising the router because of > software > issues, and well... it's smaller and more efficient. Just my .02 > There is a flip side to this. I had a power supply failure in a cisco early on a Saturday morning. Cisco needed $400 to get one to me by Monday morning. If it had been a FreeBSD or Linux box, me, a screwdriver and $30 could have got it back up in an hour. Now I have fours BGP peers each feeding me 60k routes hanging off a beefy $3500 PC and I've pushed 75 mbits of traffic thru it (in tests between ethernet segments) with a full routing table. I have another beefy $3500 PC that I'm going to move two of the peers too. Gonna run dual parallel ethernet backbones (dual home all of my servers on the two backbones) and thus eliminate any single point of failure be it an ethernet card, cable, hub, router or whatever. To do the same with cisco equipment would require a pair of cisco 7xxx series routers with multiple serial and five ethernet interfaces each -- roughly $120k worth of hardware, my two FreeBSD boxes were slightly less :-). Sure my equipment is going to fail once in a while, physical devices always do. If I properly design my network, it won't matter. Sure some things are missing in the software I use (gated), like communities and confederations in BGP, NSSA in OSPF, and Equal Cost Multipath Routing in the kernel -- but that hasn't been an impediment (actually it has been good by forcing me to stick to fundamentals). - Barrett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message