From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 17 18:05:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9752106566C for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:05:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A9A8FC0C for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:05:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (unknown [192.168.61.3]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E5BC3B754; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:05:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q8HI51sD063508; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:05:01 GMT (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) To: Zhihao Yuan From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 17 Sep 2012 12:53:40 EST." Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:05:01 +0000 Message-ID: <63507.1347905101@critter.freebsd.dk> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:10:56 +0000 Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Mike Meyer Subject: Re: Providing a default graphical environment on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:05:04 -0000 In message , Zhihao Yuan writes: >Well, let's make it more straightforward. I hope people can agree with >this: a default, officially supported modern desktop environment is >essential to FreeBSD. No, it is not. It would certainly be nice to have as an option, but I would hate to have to deal with it, when I squeeze FreeBSD into embedded systems which have neither graphics outputs nor keyboard or mouse inputs. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.