From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 24 10:55:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77CCEF6F for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 10:55:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.lhr1.as41113.net (mail.lhr1.as41113.net [91.208.177.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A292147E for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 10:55:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.21.87.41] (unknown [212.9.98.193]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: lists@rewt.org.uk) by mail.lhr1.as41113.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3fXgCt2HSWz7rBW for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 10:55:22 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <530B2500.5030608@rewt.org.uk> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 10:54:56 +0000 From: Joe Holden User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent References: <20140223211155.GS1699@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <530B13CA.6000005@rewt.org.uk> <33612.1393235765@critter.freebsd.dk> <20140224100036.GA1699@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> In-Reply-To: <20140224100036.GA1699@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 10:55:08 -0000 On 24/02/2014 10:00, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 09:56:05AM +0000, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >> In message <530B13CA.6000005@rewt.org.uk>, Joe Holden writes: >>> On 24/02/2014 04:26, Julio Merino wrote: >>>> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >> >>>>> As some of you may have noticed, I have imorted a couple of days ago dma >>>>> (DragonFly Mail Agent) in base. I have been asked to explain my motivation >>>>> so here they are. >> >>>> I'd argue, for example, that postfix can be also easily configured and can >>>> be made to not listen on port 25 for local mail delivery, while at the same >>>> time it is a fully-functional MTA that could replace sendmail altogether. >> >>> The trend towards having sensible lightweight things in the base is a >>> good thing IMO. >> >> Fully agree. >> >> To the extent we can manage it, we should have minimal client-focused >> tools for things like DNS, SMTP and NTP in the tree and make it >> trivial for people to install the fully featured server version of >> their choice from ports. > > That's is what I'm doing with dma :) > > you want a full featured smtp server: > pkg install ${FAVORITESMTP:-opensmtpd} > > regards, > Bapt > Can I also suggest that ntp.org shouldn't be in the base either? :P