From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Aug 5 19:16:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from blues.ghis.net (pppc1-110.eisa.net.au [203.166.251.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEDB514E58 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 19:16:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@blues.ghis.net) Received: (from jim@localhost) by blues.ghis.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA13930 for advocacy@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 12:16:10 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jim) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 12:16:10 +1000 From: Jim Mock To: advocacy@FreeBSD.org Subject: followup: advocacy.freebsd.org (fwd) Message-ID: <19990806121610.A13888@blues.ghis.net> Reply-To: jim@blues.ghis.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Rob's asked me to forward this on to the list. He seems to be having some trouble with getting mail through to certain places. - Jim --- Forwarded message from eagle@phc.igs.net --- Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 21:52:30 -0400 (EDT) From: eagle@phc.igs.net Subject: followup: advocacy.freebsd.org To: advocacy@freebsd.org cc: jim@blues.ghis.net In response to the discussion on advocacy about the advocacy site, I felt it neccessary to bring up several points. 1. There where many requests for help with the site. I sent *Many* emails to the advo list requesting help, there were also requests for help on the site itself. 2. The issue about bringing the site into the tree. Bill F, and I discussed this to death, Bill sent a email to core, offering to be mentor to Jim Mock and myself. The result of his e-mail was it was denied by core. I then asked Jordan about running a seperate cvsupd to provide access to the tree. This request was also denied. The reason being, that Jordan didn't want a bunch of new committers on freefall or the advocacy box. 3. Nik brought up the issue of tools used by the advocacy project. Everything was done with the issues that Nik brought up in mind. The source of the advocacy site was written in SGML and converted to HTML through make. 4. The reason for the database concept, is not obvious from the present implementation of the site. The goal that we where working towards, was a dynamic site, generating static pages. One proof of concept is /. 5. There where several reasons why the content went stale. 1. We didn't want to make a lot of changes to the cvs tree on the advo box if it was going to be moved to freefall. 2. The last update we where working on was dependant on work being done by as usual in the advocacy sites limited lifetime 1 person. He switched Jobs while working on it, and just didn't have time to finish it.. btw Thanks Tommy for your efforts in helping with this. 3. What volunteers we did manage to recruit, for the most part didn't contribute. 4. I firmly believe the lack of a central repository. was the final nail in this projects coffin. I want to thank those that did work on this project with me for there efforts, The List is short and they all ready know who they are. I would also like to thank JKH for his input and Bill Fumerola for attempting to bring about the one thing that I believe would of saved this project. I would also like to apolagize for the lack of time that I have been able to dedicate to the advo site in the last several months, I'm not going to explain why, as those who where involved in the site already know. Robert E. Garrett --- End forwarded message --- -- - Jim Mock - jim@blues.ghis.net - systems administrator - ghis.NET - - work: http://www.ghis.net/ - personal: http://www.ghis.net/~jim/ - - FreeBSD 'zine: http://www.freebsdzine.org/ - jim@freebsdzine.org - - FreeBSD: Bringing UNIX to the masses --- http://www.freebsd.org/ - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message