Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 18:18:08 +0000 From: "Frank Pawlak" <fpawlak@execpc.com> To: Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>, drifter@stratos.net Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Does it's true? Message-ID: <980627181808.ZM27850@darkstar.connect.com> In-Reply-To: Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com> "Re: Does it's true?" (Jun 27, 2:57am) References: <19980627034631.A944@stratos.net> <199806270857.CAA17321@softweyr.com>
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On Jun 27, 2:57am, Wes Peters wrote: > Subject: Re: Does it's true? > My hidden microphone recorded (drifter@stratos.net) saying: > > % > Overall you are probably better for it. In the US there are entirely too > % many > % > guns walking around. Some of these kids with guns are better armed than I > % was > % ^^^^ ^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ > % > % Interesting choice of words, possibly indicative of perspective? > % Personification of guns, or "guns walking around", is probably > % a phrase uttered by a gun-control advocate, whereas "criminals walking > % around with guns" is maybe more likely to be spoken of by an NRA advocate. > > No, it's well known that guns walk around by themselves here in > the USA. Sometimes they have people attached to them, but the > people are not responsible for any crimes committed, because the > problem is the guns. The people attached to the guns are just > another class of victim. > > Right, Frank? Wes, that's a baited question. I was speaking analogously, and not taking any position as to responsibility or victim. So please don't put words in my mouth. ;-) > > % Now, "kids walking around with guns," that's a toss-up! > > That would depend on the kids, and where they are walking. Personally, > I wouldn't send anyone out walking in Wind River Mountains without a > rifle. The US Park Service take all the bears that become a problem > to people in Yellowstone and Grand Teton National Parks and dump them > into the north end of the Wind Rivers, which is otherwise backpackers > mecca. As much as I support the right of the bears to their territory, > their right ends as soon as they try to kill me. I'll take ME every > time. > > Your mileage may vary. If you relish the idea of being eaten by the > local fauna, let me know. I know where a cougar lives who is big enough > to jump a 200-lb deer carcass onto a rock ledge 7 feet off the ground. > I'm certain he'd enjoy eating a gun control advocate or two. ;^) Again, not taking any particular position on gun control, but relating my experience with wild animals as a once avid hunter, I can say that having spent many hours alone in the forested areas of northern Wisconsin, I never had a problem being attacked by anaimals. Granted the species native here differ from those of the West. People here had a fear of the wolf and created an extinct species of animal which has resulted in big and growing problems with the deer herd. They have been re-introduced here, and I hunted in areas where wolves were present and never had a problem. It has been my experience that in general wild animals fear man. That situation can and does change if the animal is injured or starving. Man, supposedly, having the higher intellect should be able ot get along with animals and survive together just fine. Yes there are risks when a human enters the natural habitat of an animal, but knowing what you are doing they can be minimized without necessarily killing the animal first. BTW, I do have experience with wildlife in other parts of the US and in other countries. The above pretty much holds true. Frank > > -- > "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" > > Wes Peters Softweyr LLC > http://www.softweyr.com/~softweyr wes@softweyr.com > > >-- End of excerpt from Wes Peters To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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