From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 22:39:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE21A16A47C for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:39:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 665E143EF4 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:32:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [10.35.4.65] (65.4-35-10-static.chueca.wifi [10.35.4.65]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8C052E024; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 23:34:12 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4581D0D7.7030501@locolomo.org> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 23:31:51 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20061022) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fabian Keil References: <457C686E.5050504@locolomo.org> <20061214132434.5ac20b82@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20061214132434.5ac20b82@localhost> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms060506040304000805070702" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How safe is encrypted disks? (data integrity) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:39:08 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms060506040304000805070702 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fabian Keil wrote: > Erik Norgaard wrote: > >> I have been thinking to make /home on my laptop encrypted - seems like a >> good idea if it gets stolen. Now, how safe is this? Not in terms of the >> strength of the encryption algorithm, but in terms of integrity. > > I have no insight on the code, but as nobody else answered, > my response may be better than nothing. > >> What happens in case of power failure, the battery runs out or system >> crashes for whatever reason? > > I have my home slice encrypted with GELI for several month now > and so far I didn't notice any effects on the data integrity. > > I experienced several system crashes and one or two power failures > do to empty battery but I didn't lose any data already saved > on the disk (that I know of). > > The only inconvenience is that the system boots to single-user > mode if the home slice isn't clean and I then have to fsck it > manually. > > At that point the password for the key is already entered, > so I'm not sure why the slice can't be fscked automatically. > It could be the .eli extension, but I didn't investigate this > any further. Thanks, reading man-pages and stuff I think I have understood that sectors are encrypted individually, so errors in one sector does not affect the decryption of other sectors. Is this correctly understood? It's a mess though if you have to manually run fsck. I can't figure out why either: if you have attached the device it ought to be transparrent. The geli man-page claims you can even encrypt the root device - wonder how fsck will work then... 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