From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 15 23:57:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from host07.rwsystems.net (kasie.rwsystems.net [209.197.192.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7486E14CE7 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:57:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwyatt@RWSystems.net) Received: from kasie.rwsystems.net([209.197.192.103]) (4531 bytes) by host07.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 01:17:13 -0500 (CDT) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Dec-24) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 01:17:13 -0500 (CDT) From: James Wyatt To: rcramer@sytex.net Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ariel RS2000 and FBSD In-Reply-To: <199907160126.VAA03787@cscfx.sytex.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 15 Jul 1999 rcramer@sytex.net wrote: > > > On Wed, 14 Jul 1999 rcramer@sytex.net wrote: > > > We are currently developing the RAS Software for the Ariel Board. Will > > > keep you informed of progress. > > > > Cool, can your sales guy *please* leave me alone until you get it > > supporting radius on FreeBSD? Teach him what 'no' means. I also don't > > understand how your answer fits his question. Are you going to do RAS > > under FreeBSD? Are you sticking to Windows only? (Either is OK, of course, > > I just didn't understand the answer.) > > Jy, FWIW: Uh, That is J Y@ (as in J(ames) Wy-at(t), though it isn't too obvious. 8{( I've always wanted to have a font with a 'y' in the middle of the '@', rather than an 'a'. Looks like an odd cattle brand as a .GIF... > Based on your response, as I read it, you will be probably the last I > let know. A "sales guy" did not answer your email I did. "Leave you > alone", most certainly! However do not then post querries to the FreeBSD > lists! In reference to your questions my read of your email says you > do not want to know anything until it is fully operational. Please reread my response as I wasn't talking about your polite email responding to *someone else's question*, but the *seven* phone calls I have received since asking for some documentation by snail-mail. I have told him we do NT clients, not servers for dialup and he won't quit. The original mailing filled my every need and I appreciated it. Now I keep getting told that RAS is *so* much better than PPP because it can do NetBEUI, etc... because "...it is based on Windows". Uh, right... The guy on the phone just doesn't get that *he* 1) won't convert me to using NT servers for dialup support, and 2) likely won't sell a good product here even when/if it is offered on FreeBSD (or Linux) at this point. > In reference to Windows, you posed a question on a FreeBSD list, about a > board that you wanted to run under FreeBSD, and the subject of my response > was RS2000 and FreeBSD. How does one extrapolate to Windows? Retorical, > do not anwser! In reference to accuracy, *I* did not pose a question; "Len Conrad" was "fishing around availability of the Ariel PRI RS2000 card under fbsd" in message <4.2.0.56.19990714203040.02d640b0@go2france.com>. You popped-up with a seeming non-sequitur of "We are currently developing RAS software for the Ariel Board.", never mentioning FreeBSD, just RAS and Ariel. I then mistook you for someone who might work with Ariel folks and get them to stop calling. I also missed where RAS was a non-Windows layer as far as Ariel was concerned - remember the fool who has been calling me... Can you *please* educate me/us on the Unix RAS stuff you are working on? The board looks great, given some drivers and support! And why shouldn't I answer when I have done more research? (and maybe more spell-checking) 8{( > FYI I am a technical engineer, and the President of Sytex Access Ltd, and > the Founder and Organizer of the FreeBSD User Group in Metropolitan > Washington DC, USA. I got the President part from your .sig, but not the FreeBSD part. (fwiw: I've always wondered what living in DC area would be like, I could live at the Smithsonian) I apologize for taking you as an Ariel employee and being confused at seeing RAS and Unix so close together. You never answered my question about RAS on FreeBSD - it wasn't rhetorical, but genuine. Can you see where I might extrapolate it to Windows? I can't see how you can get Len and me confused, we don't look alike at all... 8{) I appreciate the time you took in researching and responding, and I *would* have great interest in an inexpensive board that handled dual T1s for dialup under FreeBSD via PCI. If it did radius and *talked to* NT/98/etc clients well, all the better! We have taken-on beta products before (incl. Chicago/Cairo/Merlin/smail), so it doesn't even have to be fully finished. Take care and have fun - Jy@ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message