From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 18 14:59:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60AB216A4CE for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 14:59:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from gaff.hhhr.ision.net (gaff.hhhr.ision.net [195.180.9.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DBFA43D39 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 14:59:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ohoyer@ohoyer.de) Received: from gaff.hhhr.ision.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gaff.hhhr.ision.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i2IMxNaV044120; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 23:59:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ohoyer@ohoyer.de) Received: from localhost (ohoyer@localhost)i2IMxDXT044117; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 23:59:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ohoyer@ohoyer.de) X-Authentication-Warning: gaff.hhhr.ision.net: ohoyer owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 23:59:12 +0100 (CET) From: Olaf Hoyer Sender: ohoyer@gaff.hhhr.ision.net To: Simon In-Reply-To: <20040316071708.C765C43D39@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: <20040318235000.B44078@gaff.hhhr.ision.net> References: <20040316071708.C765C43D39@mx1.FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: Artem Koutchine cc: Lanny Baron cc: "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Multiprocessor system VS one processor system X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 22:59:22 -0000 On Tue, 16 Mar 2004, Simon wrote: > > Sounds like a cool feature. What detects/monitors the CPUs to spot any problems > and mark them offline at the next reboot? is this a feature of FreeBSD or motherboards > you use? I have never heard of anything like this on Intel based servers, before. > Hi! No, its a feature of a real "Server"-Mainboard. Standard feature in real iron, meaning non-i386 based. I hava @work lots of suns sitting around, that also get beaten and (ab)used quite a lot, and then, we also have some share of defective CPU's a year. But... the things an old 450 with 400 MHz CPUs and 20 HDD's stacked will do I/O-Wise, is not easily achievable with some modern dual-Xeon Server. in Intel world, I rarely experienced flaky CPU, but these i386 boxes are rarely loaded to the load a Solaris/Sparc box can take, in most cases the Intel box simply runs out of I/O-possibilities. I have some boxes here, that never go below 1000 procs simultaneously. So a load of 10 or so is normal there. (Ok, they have more than 4 CPU, though) > PS: then again, I never had a CPU fail after it passed DOA, maybe I haven't gone > through enough CPUs, yet. Well, in i386 world, CPUs are mostly only going south when cooling is bad, or you get some current spikes or so, with real iron, that is being really beaten up, you have this more often. But real iron also remains in production use for more that 3 years... Just my 0.02 Euro on this Olaf -- Olaf Hoyer ohoyer@gaff.hhhr.ision.net Fuerchterliche Erlebniss geben zu raten, ob der, welcher sie erlebt, nicht etwas Fuerchterliches ist. (Nietzsche, Jenseits von Gut und Boese)