From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Feb 15 18:02:12 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4F86AA8F7A for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2016 18:02:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marquis@roble.com) Received: from mx5.roble.com (mx5.roble.com [206.40.34.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx5.roble.com", Issuer "mx5.roble.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AAB841C40 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2016 18:02:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marquis@roble.com) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 10:02:12 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Marquis To: John Marino cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Removing documentation In-Reply-To: <56C20D93.5030009@marino.st> References: <56C1E579.30303@marino.st> <20160215165952.6199743BFA@shepard.synsport.net> <56C2075A.5000409@marino.st> <20160215173229.2574943BC2@shepard.synsport.net> <56C20D93.5030009@marino.st> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 18:02:12 -0000 > Ports have to support all supported releases, that's the only connection. They have historically and for good reason. Cross-platform ports are FreeBSD's strongest feature, but it would not have taken a tremendous amount of effort to have supported both pre- and post- ng trees in tandem for say a year. > what FOSS distributions support releases for 7+ years for gratis? One > pays for that kind of support. Did your organization offer to pay for > extended support? We would have loved to if that option had been available. The cost would have been minuscule compared to doing the same with contractors and in-house devs. Now that Xinuos is around we at least have that option. > All your colleagues, developers, administrators, and managers want > enterprise level support without paying any money at all? They *all* > think volunteers provide that level of support just because? Please don't make so many assumptions. No BSD shop that I know of needs enterprise level support. Had that with Sun (SunSove) but they never had ports much less a good security track record. All we need is to be able to compile ports and patch the few kernel security issues that come up. It's not something beyond the abilities of our community (IMO) but rather more of a policy issue. Roger