From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Mar 7 7:25:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD0B314CE7 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 1999 07:25:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.56.165]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAAD1C; Sun, 7 Mar 1999 16:25:15 +0100 Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org (abaddon@daemon.ninth-circle.org [192.168.0.1]) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA31996; Sun, 7 Mar 1999 16:26:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199903070641.BAA02704@eagle.phc.igs.net> Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 16:26:17 +0100 (CET) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: eagle@phc.igs.net Subject: Re: A BSD-licensed GUI toolkit? Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU, tlambert@primenet.com Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 07-Mar-99 eagle@phc.igs.net wrote: > Terry Lambert was seen writing: > >> I actually believe that the future lies with things like "VNC": >> >> http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ >> >> >> Because VNC can replicate frame buffer contents over a network >> (a simplified description, to be sure), you can get rid of most >> of the overhead of X11 by declaring that your network transport >> is a replication mechanism of some kind. >> > I fail to see how this solves the issue at hand, with x library's as > this kind of implementation would have to replace x, destroying the > compatibility with existing software in the proccess. While vnc's frame > buffer replication ideas are indeed interesting, it goes nowhere to > solving the problem that we do have. > > that is quite simply a stable usefull x toolkit, I do agree that mofif > is dead, and that work on it would be aproaching useless though. Motif is dead, but no viable alternative has come forth with regard to usability, license and documentation. GTk+ attempts to, but fails in the rapid Linux bazaar style chaotic way of coding (if anyone of you followed the mailinglists there as well, ye know what I mean). This is a niche we could fill. > So that leaves us with the prospect of designing and implementing a new > gui toolkit. Which was what Brian and myself were aiming at as far as I understood. --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven asmodai(at)wxs.nl The idea does not replace the work... Network/Security Specialist *BSD: Powered by Knowledge & Know-how To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message