From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 30 07:57:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA29600 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 07:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onyx.atipa.com (user9259@ns.atipa.com [208.128.22.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA29595 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 07:57:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 1018); 30 Sep 1997 15:01:37 -0000 Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 09:01:36 -0600 (MDT) From: Atipa X-Sender: freebsd@dot.ishiboo.com To: Simon Shapiro cc: "Jamil J. Weatherbee" , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Good Lord, Commercial Linux In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, Simon Shapiro wrote: > > Hi "Jamil J. Weatherbee"; On 30-Sep-97 you wrote: > > > > I was taking a look at Calderas web page noticing that their OpenLinux > > Standard is $399, and wondering who would be willing to pay such a price > > for a commercial Linux > > ... > > Actually, if you raise the price to $700, it will sell even better. > If you reduce the number of releases to 1 per year, you can charge even > more. I agree! It is a huge marketing faux pas to assume people are smart. That is why some very smart people are bad businessmen; they think other people are just as rational... haha The average consumer falls back on a herd mentality. Nice points, Simon! "A" and "B" are good; "C" I don't agree with as much. The whole fact that FreeBSD is an OS and not a _kernel_ makes it entirely more consistent. As SystemVish as it wants to be, each Linux release will have its own nuances, which seem much more of a kludge/hack to me. If you want to be truly "mainstream", all you need to do is have a GUI administration suite, then people won't know the difference. Yuck, I can't believe I just said that. That sounds gross even for a Devil's Advocate! Kevin > Justification: > > a. If it is free it is useless. You get what you pay for. Why would > anyone give away anything which is of any value? > > b. The fewer releases, the more ``stable'' your product. If you doubt > this statement, search for some high-level sales aids for NiceTry. > Or Slowlaris, for that matter. > > c. BSD came from Berkeley, it is a hack. Linux is systemV like. It has a > heritage of Large Company. Caldera was founded by Mr. Noorda, he is > the radical rebel of Corporate America. Made billions with Novell. > Calder Linux must therfore be a good thing. > > Now, BEFORE you jump down my throat, please evaluate the technology I > employ in my professional work :-) > > > BTW, join the Debian developers list. You will see a volunteer project > gone mad with commercialism... > > --- > > > Sincerely Yours, > > Simon Shapiro Atlas Telecom > Senior Architect 14355 SW Allen Blvd., Suite 130 Beaverton OR 97005 > Shimon@i-Connect.Net Voice: 503.799.2313 >