From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 20:59:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: emulation@freebsd.org Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26EA51065674; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:59:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tabthorpe@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:59:40 -0500 From: Thomas Abthorpe To: Mark Linimon Message-ID: <20120222205940.GR20266@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20120116201117.GA90568@dormouse.experts-exchange.com> <4f15924a.7CUoXdl4yduNUIqM%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20120118222747.GA372@lonesome.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wxIXENaY2CYUgF8u" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120118222747.GA372@lonesome.com> X-URL: http://www.goodking.org/ X-PGP-Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~tabthorpe/tabthorpe.asc X-PGP-Key-ID: 0xA473C990 X-PGP-Key-Fingerprint: D883 2D7C EB78 944A 69FC 36A6 D937 1097 A473 C990 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: emulation@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org, jgh@freebsd.org, portmgr@FreeBSD.org, Chris Rees Subject: Re: MASTER_SITE_FEDORA_LINUX in bsd.sites.mk X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:59:42 -0000 --wxIXENaY2CYUgF8u Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 04:27:47PM -0600, Mark Linimon wrote: > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 09:09:10PM +0000, Chris Rees wrote: > > I worry about the ethics of 'stealing' Fedora's bandwidth with other > > people's ports; we should only be using their mirrors if it's explicitly > > developed by Fedora. >=20 > Correct. dougb has pointed this out before and no one has taken the > cycles to go act on it. Consider this a task that needs volunteers. >=20 > (A similiar caveat applies to the Debian and NetBSD sites; I believe > it was Debian he flagged previously.) >=20 > mcl I have engaged the mirror maintainers and infrastructure people at Gentoo and Debian on this matter, and for the sake of completeness our own FreeBSD mirror admins. The short response is, "That is fine, just do it". Yay, there was much rejoicing in the land, end of story :) The longer part of this, is that we are all opensource-minded people, publicly sharing has been a part of our genetics since inception. It is ok to ustilise the public facing mirrors, just please do not abuse them. Another common thread I got from the maintainers that contacted me back was that they mirror for multiple projects on their site anyway, and that the additional traffic was nominal at best. One fellow told me he was in active competition for throughput with another mirror, and welcomed the extra hits he was getting. Through all of this, I was asked, particularly by the Debian folks, please ask permission of mirror maintainer before you list their mirror in the master list. You will see my recent commit to bsd.sites.mk, I added 4 more volunteers to the Debian list, http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/Mk/bsd.sites.mk.diff?r1=3D1.558= ;r2=3D1.559 I hope this helps clarify the usage of other project mirrors. Thomas --=20 Thomas Abthorpe | FreeBSD Committer tabthorpe@FreeBSD.org | http://people.freebsd.org/~tabthorpe --wxIXENaY2CYUgF8u Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPRVc8AAoJENk3EJekc8mQvLAH/1Gst2FfEI16VF2j+T91q2/t 0/GPtcsTgsNdyNOzqT50EiM6boVL95I6Jsi6muk1wfqeD52qX981RosgPM+5J8N7 QU7mYOZ+xSjs6dxYUdz4w7L9chXbEmfVTyj3cIwOGTa1Te2T4myIz2LNtIuhOabf was3hqaVfhgNOyIbQO2fq3PE7evMfv3KstRIXJ14chM6NBPz2IEBx9jojTe01nCT 1dH7zxERJc9l3g4AofPfGhYBEyACsjz6wP6NTD8Go4wuTq8XVaXRkll+TuPnnnJD 6MbkWHRHOKdp8SUjYnuWSUTX+ZIG27g1EkVTmBoCaqScNzZQ8Kg+AHrMnaO+R/Q= =R0kY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wxIXENaY2CYUgF8u--