From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Sep 21 06:52:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA12142 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 06:52:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from widefw.csl.sony.co.jp (widefw.csl.sony.co.jp [133.138.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA12116 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 06:52:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kjc@csl.sony.co.jp) Received: from hotaka.csl.sony.co.jp (root@hotaka.csl.sony.co.jp [43.27.98.57]) by widefw.csl.sony.co.jp (8.8.8/3.6W) with ESMTP id WAA27388; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 22:51:18 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (kjc@[127.0.0.1]) by hotaka.csl.sony.co.jp (8.8.8/3.6W/hotaka/98021914) with ESMTP id WAA28310; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 22:51:19 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199809211351.WAA28310@hotaka.csl.sony.co.jp> To: ark@eltex.ru cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, ipfilter@postbox.anu.edu.au Subject: Re: Packet/traffic shapper ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 21 Sep 1998 13:51:23 +0400." <199809210951.NAA32644@paranoid.eltex.spb.ru> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 22:51:19 +0900 From: Kenjiro Cho Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> ALTQ is damn ugly. I'd prefer to see something like dummynet interacting >> with IPFilter instead of ipfw. As the author of ALTQ, I have to admit "ALTQ is damn ugly". But it's ugly because "the current drivers are damn ugly". And, at least, ALTQ points out where we have to look at to clean up the drivers. --kj To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message