From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 1 12:31:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA02698 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 12:31:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA02692 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 12:31:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA01978; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 12:29:32 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199608011929.MAA01978@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: Question about Cisco 2503i price To: jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com (Joe Greco) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 12:29:32 -0700 (PDT) Cc: ulf@lamb.net, dennis@etinc.com, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199608011826.NAA26170@brasil.moneng.mei.com> from Joe Greco at "Aug 1, 96 01:26:50 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Ok, one more add from me. I calculated a 486 PC, maybe not the cheapest > > but modern. > > It's the cheapest you can buy new.. :-) > > However some of your prices are perhaps out of line. Seeing as how I > was just doing hardware cost calculations the other day I have some > fresh good numbers.. ... > > Case+powersupply $75 (man, these are expensive compared to .de) > > What!? My _nice_ Enlight cases cost $65. I can get tin cans for $35. And the power supply in your Enlight cases has an MTBF of approx 5,000 hours, or about 6 months continous use. The one in the $35.00 tin cans are about the same. The failure mode is usually the fan bushing goes out (no one selling power supplies for <$40.00 uses a ball bearing fan.) You also appear to be buying at very very close to wholesale pricing... ... > > Cogent PCI ethermet $80 > > Kingston PCI Ethernet $55 I show that to be the wholesale price for the KNE40T (TP only), I can see $56.00 retail if you buy in 20 packs at a time. Rod... who's always wondering how these ``end users'' seem to come up with retail prices below wholesale... :-) :-) :-) -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD