Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2023 13:45:07 +0000 (UTC) From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" <bz@freebsd.org> To: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> Cc: John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>, src-committers@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org Subject: Re: git: cf94672363d6 - main - rtw88/rtw89: remove local firmware. Message-ID: <5o323300-6053-0s28-692r-6oro7qq5n9p8@serrofq.bet> In-Reply-To: <CANCZdfpPx8NmBR5d9H5=GeSSSGGjxZpv=x1EJX-NQNX9gOFpYg@mail.gmail.com> References: <202309052116.385LGoau059784@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <d9be0f6a-baed-55f1-5ea1-390e1392a631@FreeBSD.org> <92064p8n-134r-9rqo-8038-rpnq4r25p567@SerrOFQ.bet> <5325f22d-9e7f-04bd-ab35-128438eb9a2a@FreeBSD.org> <4sr8n9or-q731-1945-893s-no953r283756@SerrOFQ.bet> <CANCZdfpPx8NmBR5d9H5=GeSSSGGjxZpv=x1EJX-NQNX9gOFpYg@mail.gmail.com>
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This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --1098556516-1839976615-1694094309=:2448 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Thu, 7 Sep 2023, Warner Losh wrote: > On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 6:36 AM Bjoern A. Zeeb <bz@freebsd.org> wrote: > >> On Wed, 6 Sep 2023, John Baldwin wrote: >> >>> On 9/6/23 12:06 PM, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: >>>> On Wed, 6 Sep 2023, John Baldwin wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 9/5/23 2:16 PM, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: >>>>>> The branch main has been updated by bz: >>>>>> >>>>>> URL: >>>>>> >> https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=cf94672363d6638b7268c05b4628b62bbfc8dbe5 >>>>>> >>>>>> commit cf94672363d6638b7268c05b4628b62bbfc8dbe5 >>>>>> Author: Bjoern A. Zeeb <bz@FreeBSD.org> >>>>>> AuthorDate: 2023-06-08 21:35:09 +0000 >>>>>> Commit: Bjoern A. Zeeb <bz@FreeBSD.org> >>>>>> CommitDate: 2023-09-05 21:13:18 +0000 >>>>>> >>>>>> rtw88/rtw89: remove local firmware. >>>>>> Remove firmware from src/ in favor of the ports/packages >> and >>>>>> fwget(8). >>>>>> This will allow us to shrink the size of src (and installed >>>>>> modules). >>>>>> Update the rtw88 man page to reflect the change. >>>>> >>>>> How does this interfact with doing an install to a machine over one of >>>>> these >>>>> interfaces? >>>> >>>> That's nothing we support. At least we do not support netboot over wifi >>>> currently, so you'll always need another install media. >>>> >>>> How's the "bootstrapping" going to work if wireless is the only network >>>> option? >>> >>> To be clear, I was discussing the case you use a USB memstick, but fetch >>> the base system and packages over the network. >> >> Understood. Not sure we actually support the former; I guess I am not >> using the installer too much. >> >> >>> Or at least you need to >>> install pkg over the network, but you need pkg to install the firmware >>> so you can bring up the network which you did address, though it seems >>> something we plan to fix in the future so won't be in 14.0? >> >> Yes. We plan to sort this out but I'd say it's unlikely for 14.0. >> >> And to be clear, it was me who raised exactly these "botstrapping" >> installer concerns in the first place. >> >> At the moment we will first need stable drivers to be able to do any >> networking in first place. Once that is sorted, installing mobile >> devices with just them and no other means of networking will be >> addressed. >> > > Yea, the rtw88 driver is stable enough for me to do a network install > over it. So now people with -current can't do that any more and have > to do hokey things to get the firmware or other packages to the laptop > before they can do anything. This is not really going to make people > happy and will generate a fair number of complaints. > > I'd assume some other "fallout" will improve some installer bits along >> when this happens and that we'll want enough and brought testing for it. >> > > It sounds rather premature to remove it from -current if there's no support > in the installer, and nothing in place that adds the packages to the > installation > media with no firm plans or timelines to address that. You do understand that I also disconnected rtw88 from main? Please read the announcement and/or fill the gap. /bz -- Bjoern A. Zeeb r15:7 --1098556516-1839976615-1694094309=:2448--
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