From owner-cvs-all Sun Jan 14 13:14:36 2001 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com (mailout02.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC2D37B6A2; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 13:14:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from fwd01.sul.t-online.com by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14HuSh-00058V-06; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 22:13:15 +0100 Received: from neutron.cichlids.com (520050424122-0001@[62.225.193.59]) by fmrl01.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14HuSW-10UV6WC; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 22:13:04 +0100 Received: from cichlids.cichlids.com (cichlids.cichlids.com [192.168.0.10]) by neutron.cichlids.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68190AB0C; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 22:13:16 +0100 (CET) Received: by cichlids.cichlids.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4E84C14A5F; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 22:11:45 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 22:11:45 +0100 From: Alexander Langer To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: Mark Murray , cvs-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/conf GENERIC Message-ID: <20010114221145.A1340@cichlids.cichlids.com> References: <200101141858.f0EIwOI24920@gratis.grondar.za> <30911.979499109@critter> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <30911.979499109@critter>; from phk@critter.freebsd.dk on Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 08:05:09PM +0100 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-PGP-at: finger alex@big.endian.de X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. X-Sender: 520050424122-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thus spake Poul-Henning Kamp (phk@critter.freebsd.dk): > >Does it make any sense at all to make 80386 a separate platform > >a'la pc98/alpha/ia64? Do enough people care about it? > No it doesn't. I think you'll find that running 5.x in less than > 32MB is going to be painfull or impossible in the first place. A little bit of the ramainding mystique of free open-source UNIX-like operating system for me is the fact, that you still can run it on i386 machines with usable speed (e.g. small private home mail-servers). Given the fact that we usually stop supporting releases that are too old (e.g. the 2.x branch and I suppose RELENG_3 soon), I somehow dislike the idea of not supporting the i386 any more. I think you really can trim 5.x down to work w/o pain on a i386 once installed. A decision must be made. If removing support for the i386 has gradious performance or memory advantages for the ramainding platforms, I second removing the code. On the other hand, if we only remove it from GENERIC, we could provide a trimmed down i386 kernel, which doesn't include support for PCI and PCCARD devices. This kernel should work on small machines with better speed and less memory usage. Alex -- cat: /home/alex/.sig: No such file or directory To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message