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Joe Kelsey wrote:

> Gee, I ask a seemingly simple question about connecting a very simple
> driver to the system and all of ZERO people chime in with help.
> 
> The only thing anyone had to say involved something like "Read and
> update isa_compat.h" and I can take it from there!  However, noone said
> that or anything else for that matter.
> 
> It really upsets me because it seems that absolutely *no* documentation
> exists for how to connect a driver to FreeBSD 4.x.  Documentation exists
> for 3.x and 5.x, but none for 4.x.
> 
> This mailing list just seems useless to me.
> 
> /Joe
> 

Device driver documenation is sorely lacking in all respects.  PCI
drivers are fairly easy to hook up, but ISA drivers still have a lot of
black magic.  I would suggest that you post to hackers@ before giving
up.

Scott