From owner-freebsd-current Sat Dec 21 4:11:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2411537B401 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 04:11:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from MX4.estpak.ee (mta1.mail.neti.ee [194.126.101.123]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E1A43EDE for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 04:11:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kalts@estpak.ee) Received: from tiiu.internal (80-235-34-13-dsl.mus.estpak.ee [80.235.34.13]) by MX4.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 358211D0042; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 14:11:43 +0200 (EET) Received: from tiiu.internal (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiiu.internal (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBLCBgXZ001034; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 14:11:42 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from vallo@tiiu.internal) Received: (from vallo@localhost) by tiiu.internal (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBLCBgIc001033; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 14:11:42 +0200 (EET) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 14:11:41 +0200 From: Vallo Kallaste To: Terry Lambert Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PFIL_HOOKS should be made default in 5.0 Message-ID: <20021221121141.GA945@tiiu.internal> Reply-To: kalts@estpak.ee References: <0a6201c2a6f9$42cfd720$52557f42@errno.com> <200212200127.MAA20942@avalon.reed.wattle.id.au> <20021220032930.GA67469@unixdaemons.com> <0e5401c2a7e1$37149090$52557f42@errno.com> <0e9701c2a7e2$cbe1de20$52557f42@errno.com> <20021220105251.GA1296@tiiu.internal> <3E0345B2.9E7D4C74@mindspring.com> <20021220212919.GA3543@tiiu.internal> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021220212919.GA3543@tiiu.internal> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i-ja.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 11:29:19PM +0200, Vallo Kallaste wrote: > > > Yes, and this "undefined symbols" message will make no sense > > > from user perspective. > > > > Then fix it. The fix is trivial: > [description of possible fix snipped] > > As I've stated several times and as you most certainly know I'm not > developer. What are you trying to accomplish by the phrase "then fix > it"? Put me down, eh? > I have encountered this problem several times and for the first time > the message about unresolved symbol(s) made no sense and forced me > to do time consuming searches over the 'Net to get a clue what's > going on. Will we want to get possible users using FreeBSD or will > we want argue about it to death? The users get bored and move on, > that's it. Uh, sorry Terry. I was lightly drunk (just got back from party) yesterday when I wrote this. Althought the writing has some right points (from my side of view), the overall tone is rude. I'm so sorry. -- Vallo Kallaste kalts@estpak.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message