From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 18 08:06:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4524B16A415 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 08:06:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (prime.gushi.org [72.9.101.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 065B613C43E for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 08:06:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prime.gushi.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l0I86QWi067676 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 18 Jan 2007 03:06:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=simple/simple; d=prime.gushi.org; s=primegushiorg; t=1169107586; bh=ptFWvPm6vHDOa3B5nIFbRFqxdGE=; h=DomainKey-Signature: Received:Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dHtb2hiTQ1eX1NT91njVAwTxIJX9l36VFmmfzz DOhAvN+d9nLiaWOXewJH24tJwt0YmMigY+YMNQw9T2Bi8TYQ== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=primegushiorg; d=prime.gushi.org; c=nofws; q=dns; h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id: references:mime-version:content-type; b=eSSB+6thujLDgJJoDiln9X6RC7PgnLaPnPvlOK2mHBY84ZGGeWlce1H/npQGn5bts hnmUJmfWw3HvuOV6WtFjg== Received: (from danm@localhost) by prime.gushi.org (8.13.8/8.13.6/Submit) id l0I86PVB067668; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 03:06:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from danm) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 03:06:25 -0500 (EST) From: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: <005701c73ad3$1e433560$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Message-ID: <20070118030358.S55095@prime.gushi.org> References: <20070118022306.Q26349@prime.gushi.org> <005701c73ad3$1e433560$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Transport Mode IPSEC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 08:06:30 -0000 On Wed, 17 Jan 2007, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > Dan, > > You do realize, don't you, that since both of these hosts are on a switch, > and are using unicast traffic to communicate with each other, that they > cannot be sniffed, don't you? That implies trust of the switch, trust against arp-cache poisoning, and the like. The idea of ipsec is not trusting the wire. With NIS/NFS known for being this inherently secure, would it get me a better answer if I said "with only a single router between them"? -Dan -- --------Dan Mahoney-------- Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM Site: http://www.gushi.org ---------------------------