From owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Sun Oct 2 21:35:15 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7FB0AC6DFD; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 21:35:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from isoa@kapsi.fi) Received: from mail.kapsi.fi (mx1.kapsi.fi [IPv6:2001:1bc8:1004::1:25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 96855A1C; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 21:35:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from isoa@kapsi.fi) Received: from karviainen.kapsi.fi ([217.30.184.182] helo=roundcube.kapsi.fi) by mail.kapsi.fi with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1bqoPh-0007MZ-CW; Mon, 03 Oct 2016 00:35:13 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2016 00:35:13 +0300 From: Arto Pekkanen To: Jonathan Anderson Cc: Matthew Macy , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, Mark Linimon , owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <439e20fa-6385-68fb-c97e-24705ebd2f94@nomadlogic.org> <157496f7268.ac5eb5ca278618.8741026532558973404@nextbsd.org> <3FEE7DD3-C408-4398-9F0B-5529B2E7A61F@transactionware.com> <1574b8980bc.106a6e9ef306540.4216158444646545056@nextbsd.org> <20160926192637.33f7921b@azsupport.com> <157683d1ec0.11a09775b76996.945490951353894015@nextbsd.org> <20160927031041.31b6f90a@azsupport.com> <157693fc60a.ebf27bd286215.2625530085502855667@nextbsd.org> <20160927033819.2670e3f1@azsupport.com> <20160927015534.GA1345@lonesome.com> <1576a3129d6.df449a6798184.3431483148132229583@nextbsd.org> Message-ID: <7631178880a78ab4ef131d7a46c995f8@kapsi.fi> X-Sender: isoa@kapsi.fi User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.9.4 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.30.184.182 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: isoa@kapsi.fi X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Subject: Re: gfx-next update: drm-4.8-rc2 tagged in drm-next X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mail.kapsi.fi) X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2016 21:35:15 -0000 Thank you very much for the story :) You could actually write a more prose version of this experience to the advocacy mailing list? Just a suggestion :) FreeBSD is an excellent system to develop for in university environments, because the codebase is developed conservatively so that the API does not break every release like with Linux. Jonathan Anderson kirjoitti 27.09.2016 15:45: > On 27 Sep 2016, at 3:19, Matthew Macy wrote: > >> So long as 99% of people are duly respectful of the fact that this has >> been a great deal of work and that there is more work that lies ahead >> we'll be fine. > > I, for one, am very grateful for this work and try to help with > testing where I can. For the past couple of years I've wanted to > recommend FreeBSD to students and the people who manage our computer > labs, but the lack of support for contemporary graphics was a real > blocker while I've Linux uptake grow by leaps and bounds. Thanks to > Matt's work, I'm now running FreeBSD on a recent notebook rather than > VMs or old hardware from eBay. i915 on drm-next-4.7 has become quite > stable and reliable, to the point where I'd recommend it to students > escaping Windows once it lands in a release (12.0?). FreeBSD grew out > of a university context, and I think that we need university students > using it and hacking on it to generate new developers, new companies, > etc. > > > Jon > -- > Jonathan Anderson > jonathan@FreeBSD.org > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-x11@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-x11 > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-x11-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Arto Pekkanen