From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 22:13:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 658CD16A405 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:13:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25D3513C447 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:13:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spam.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id C78AE2088; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:13:15 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Tests: AWL X-Spam-Learn: disabled X-Spam-Score: -0.3/3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on tim.des.no Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [80.203.243.180]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BFA02049; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:13:15 +0100 (CET) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 31A17844A2; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:13:15 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: "Alexandre \"Sunny\" Kovalenko" References: <20080219104532.0dc2b565@chaos.nox> <47BDB92C.9050808@d80.iso100.no> <20080222113646.2dbb9ec1@chaos.nox> <86zlttqmc9.fsf@ds4.des.no> <1203686245.63435.12.camel@RabbitsDen> <86oda9oxxe.fsf@ds4.des.no> <1203692492.63435.16.camel@RabbitsDen> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:13:15 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1203692492.63435.16.camel@RabbitsDen> (Alexandre Kovalenko's message of "Fri\, 22 Feb 2008 10\:01\:32 -0500") Message-ID: <86ablsabd0.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: svein-listmail@d80.iso100.no, freebsd-current , Mikael Ikivesi Subject: Re: 2 core dumps X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:13:19 -0000 "Alexandre \"Sunny\" Kovalenko" writes: > If I rephrase my point as > > "The fact that OS initiated shutdown because it thinks that your laptop > has reached certain temperature threshold does not necessarily mean that > your hardware is damaged." > > would you be more amenable to agreeing with it? No. On the other hand, the fact that your OS didn't initiate shutdown does not mean your hardware did not overheat. You told us yourself that parts of your laptop have been deformed and discolored by heat. Just face it: It's passed on. This laptop is no more. It has ceased to be. It's expired and gone to meet its maker. It's a stiff. Bereft of life, it rests in peace. If you hadn't nailed it to the desk it'd be pushing up the daisies. Its electronic processes are now history. It's off the twig. It's kicked the bucket, it's shuffled off its mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleeding choir invisible. This is an ex-laptop. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no