From owner-svn-ports-all@freebsd.org Tue Jan 9 18:49:16 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B3D9E69FE2; Tue, 9 Jan 2018 18:49:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamw@adamw.org) Received: from apnoea.adamw.org (apnoea.adamw.org [104.225.5.94]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "apnoea.adamw.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D7D606A7E0; Tue, 9 Jan 2018 18:49:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamw@adamw.org) Received: by apnoea.adamw.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id c6ca23fc TLS version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO; Tue, 9 Jan 2018 11:49:13 -0700 (MST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; delsp=yes; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.2 \(3445.5.20\)) Subject: Re: svn commit: r458000 - head/www/nginx From: Adam Weinberger In-Reply-To: <20180109183323.GB9882@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 11:49:11 -0700 Cc: Mathieu Arnold , v@fatpipi.com, Jochen Neumeister , ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <5ACC5441-B3B1-41CB-8E95-5D430BDF84E1@adamw.org> References: <201801031933.w03JXLGa033758@repo.freebsd.org> <20180106134130.GA39725@FreeBSD.org> <20180106182537.GA78102@FreeBSD.org> <20180109123546.GA9882@FreeBSD.org> <825D5BD5-38D0-4F96-AEEE-2FA483F9D2BC@adamw.org> <20180109183323.GB9882@FreeBSD.org> To: "Sergey A. Osokin" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.5.20) X-BeenThere: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2018 18:49:16 -0000 > On 9 Jan, 2018, at 11:33, Sergey A. Osokin wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 11:03:35AM -0700, Adam Weinberger wrote: >>> On 9 Jan, 2018, at 5:35, Sergey A. Osokin wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> is there any update? >>> >>> Thanks. >> >> Hi Sergey, >> >> Sorry, but I can't give you a good answer on why the change was or wasn't >> discussed, and why people were or weren't notified about it in advance. It >> was policy long before it was written into the PHB, and that occurred in >> r43772, 3 years 11 months ago. >> >> At the end of the day, it's simply the only mechanism we have to ensure >> that users' installations match what we have in the repo. Past that I'm >> not >> really sure how to give you a satisfactory answer your question. If the >> policy were enacted a few months ago, I could provide insight, but we're >> talking about something that's been policy for 5+ years. > > Adam, > > thanks for the update. > > Since this new policy never been discussed, we had no public plans to > enact this policy in our roadmap, the developers have never been notified > about this major change, I'd recommend to postpone it and start new > discussion. > Personally I don't see big value of it, also I think this new policy > potentially can bring more harmful than positive effects for the project. Come on, Sergey. We cannot postpone something that's been active policy for OVER FIVE YEARS. Users need to rebuild a port when it changes. It doesn't matter which set of options they're using, they must rebuild it. If you'd like to have a discussion about changing the policy, then that's great and we should have that discussion. But in the meantime, you MUST follow the policy. # Adam -- Adam Weinberger adamw@adamw.org http://www.adamw.org