From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Mar 12 17:21:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [64.0.106.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4693F37B719 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:21:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scanner@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (scanner@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA35662; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:21:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:21:38 -0500 (EST) From: To: Kris Kennaway Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BSDi's replies to why BSDi sucks... In-Reply-To: <20010312151619.A94390@mollari.cthul.hu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Kris Kennaway wrote: > Well, some background you might be missing is that Bill Huey it a > know-it-all little [--redacted--] who has been waltzing onto IRC and > telling BSDI employees what he thinks is wrong with the management of > the company and the OSD division since quite a while *before* he ever > managed to get himself employeed as an engineer by the BSD/OS division > (the OSD division wouldn't touch him). Perhaps so. Even if he is a world class dork. There has to be some truth to his remarks. And even though others have said he does not speak for BSDi, it's hard to discount what he says since he works there AND he is the only one talking. And yes for the record I admit I was really mad after hearing this and should of waited to send the mail when I had time to sleep and think. Wouldnt be the first time the lists have been hit with rash email. But I still should of waited. Like I said it's hard to discount what he says regardless of his attitude and personality when no one else @ BSDi is talking. And BSDi isn't doing anything publically to give any different perception then the negative one already out there. I know i'm not the only person concerned about the direction or lack thereof about FreeBSD's future. And as much as I hate to burst PHK's bubble that most of the userbase is lazy, elitist and worthless, some of us like myself have done a FSCKload of advocacy for FreeBSD at great expense financially in the real world. And over the years that leads to building quite an attachment to FreeBSD and getting riled when roadblocks are put in it's way. As tactless as I am most of the time the concern here is genuine about FreeBSD getting the support and funding it deserves from BSDi. Which in previous threads it has been noted "Whats the point of dealing with BSDi?" "Good question." And other then the sugar coated "Bill is a nutcase who doesn't speak for BSDi and everything is rosy" comments would it be so horrible to expect some kind of a routine section on the BSDi site about happenings in the OSD side? Clearly things are not rosy and it would alleviate alot of my concerns that BSDi is shafting the OSD side if there was more information available about the going's on of the OSD side. And if I thought I was the only would who felt some concern here, I would not even bother to post. Normally I don't spew garbage to the list. And while for some this may border on a waste of bits, some people do care what happens to FreeBSD. And I have had time to cool off and don't feel like storming BSDi, for the moment. :-) ============================================================================= -Chris Watson (316) 326-3862 | FreeBSD Consultant, FreeBSD Geek Work: scanner@jurai.net | Open Systems Inc., Wellington, Kansas Home: scanner@deceptively.shady.org | http://open-systems.net ============================================================================= WINDOWS: "Where do you want to go today?" LINUX: "Where do you want to go tommorow?" BSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" ============================================================================= irc.openprojects.net #FreeBSD -Join the revolution! ICQ: 20016186 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message