From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 13 22:34:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9858E37B405 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 22:34:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fAE6Y8T17791; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 22:34:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Wayne Pascoe" , "Toomas Aas" Cc: Subject: RE: slightly OT: Unix MTA vs Exchange Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 22:34:08 -0800 Message-ID: <003101c16cd6$5cf5d360$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <86r8r3f2ue.fsf@pan.ehsrealtime.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Wayne Pascoe >Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:16 AM >To: Toomas Aas >Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: slightly OT: Unix MTA vs Exchange > > >"Toomas Aas" writes: > >> Hi Wayne! >> >> On 12 Nov 01 at 23:06 you wrote: >> >> > If however, they are using it for shared calendaring or the calendar >> > and mail client integration, be careful. I don't know of any >> > applications on Unix platforms that provide this kind of 'groupware'. >> > >> > If anyone has any information to contradict this, I'd be interested to >> > hear it. I'd love to be able to punt a decent alternative to Exchange. >> >> The guys at http://www.horde.org/ are working on a sort of >> web-based groupware suite which is written entirely in PHP. I >> haven't tried out the entire suite - I'm only using the e-mail part >> - but from what I've heard the latest version is quite usable. > >Granted, it might be usable. But then you face an even bigger >challenge than just moving everyone to a different server >platform. You have to convince your company to change the way people >use mail. > >In a 300+ person organisation, no sane director wil ever pick this >option. Loss of productivity and retraining costs would be through the >roof! > Correct - but they would consider option #3 - which is to simply NOT upgrade from Exchange 5.5 I fail to see the difference to Microsoft's bottom line between everyone switching to FreeBSD mailservers, or everyone simply NOT upgrading their existing Exchange Server. If your a Microsoft shop, and you want to strike a blow to the Evil Empire, then simply DON'T upgrade. It will save you lots of money, lots of time, and if you need more server power then just get a new hardware platform and put your old licenses on it. Plus, you already know about the OLD bugs, why exchange them for a set of NEW ones? Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message