From owner-freebsd-security Wed Feb 3 00:51:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA25465 for freebsd-security-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:51:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from suburbia.net (gw.iq.org [203.4.184.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA25456 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:50:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from proff@suburbia.net) From: proff@suburbia.net Received: (qmail 1689 invoked by uid 110); 3 Feb 1999 08:50:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19990203085051.1688.qmail@suburbia.net> Subject: Re: tcpdump In-Reply-To: <99Feb3.152750est.40350@border.alcanet.com.au> from Peter Jeremy at "Feb 3, 99 03:37:34 pm" To: peter.jeremy@auss2.alcatel.com.au (Peter Jeremy) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:50:51 +1100 (EST) Cc: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, security@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > AFAIK, bpfilter is needed for: > a) network debugging (eg using tcpdump) > b) network monitoring (eg using ethereal) > c) DHCP client d) rarpd e) ntop f) trafshow g) nmap h) no doubt others Frankly I'm sick of seeing anal security idiots undermining useful functionality. I don't see why we should let this useless, winging segment of the network community, which spends all its time working out new ways to prevent people doing anything, shove their uncreative bankrupt, and wholly paranoid philosophy down everyone else's throats. Julian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message