From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Mar 11 23:24:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA10162 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 23:24:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (mail.sni.de [192.109.2.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA10153 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 23:24:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA19225 for hackers@freebsd.org; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 08:23:57 +0100 Message-Id: <199603120723.IAA19225@nixpbe.pdb.sni.de> Subject: Re: using ddb to debug a double-panic? To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 96 8:20:23 MET From: Greg Lehey Cc: hackers@freebsd.org (Hackers; FreeBSD) In-Reply-To: <621.826609907@time.cdrom.com>; from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Mar 11, 96 9:51 pm X-Mailer: xmail 2.4 (based on ELM 2.2 PL16) Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> >Does anybody object to >> >emacs-style only, if the cursor functions work? >> >> Of course everyone would object :-). Mine uses wordstar style control >> keys and cursor keys for editing and Turbo Debugger style function keys > > I still think that some standards are good, and the emacs characters > have become something of a defacto standard for editing and history > manipulation. I've seen the emacs bindings in everything from bash to > the Motif text widget (as well as many others) and think that we should > follow suit. I don't know about you guys, but ^P and ^N are now wired > directly into my fingers! :-) I've come in on the end of this. This horrible thing that passes for a mail system here has swallowed a day's worth of mail again, and didn't even regurgitate it. If anybody else has sent opinions, please resend them. Seriously, Bruce (or anybody else): what kind of editing? The main objection I have to vi-style editing in shells is that it is so ESC-intensive. I suspect it's also more difficult to program, though I don't suppose that's the real problem. If anybody has any alternatives to emacs-style bindings, please let me know a detailed description of how it should work. Greg