From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 17 11:50:22 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F55AE87093 for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2017 11:50:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com) Received: from mx18-out9.antispamcloud.com (mx18-out9.antispamcloud.com [207.244.64.178]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A921B6DAFC for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2017 11:50:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com) Received: from [153.92.8.106] (helo=srv31.niagahoster.com) by mx42.antispamcloud.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eQXST-00010i-Kn; Sun, 17 Dec 2017 12:50:18 +0100 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sumeritec.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date:Sender: Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=nWEehORU0XmfVdDiIjdjBcUlXporHMfCYJ++Dy8WN8c=; b=QFYNBschfqHZDKe19oeHJgn/it rciG7fFrgOW01qGFqkAjZv76JiHWaJi79+jrJY4pN4qlrlrHHvd115HpqbRGwQfQa24JOvKSUa1pJ bt+gEwYHz6Cv06WI7hH7Ucoa/elZDU/mm1ZNcsgsGiDLxMN9bagHdODtqSVCadGG4EcXM1v3zFYXP Madm3Ft6l5S5LjqitEPJhdrHxn/JPlrtkR8zTtXaMq58ywr3A1u+cZMl5Np+PZHIXwvBQNi/Afuy/ DNCez/0Kk1kZOVOdyXGTz9b75qk4berdfIBrwnI9i3CR3IgfMr6KEtrrIVPQokP/gW/xX42tg/Wcw pawG4cPw==; Received: from [114.125.105.130] (port=38742 helo=X220.sumeritec.com) by srv31.niagahoster.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eQXRj-00023D-HQ; Sun, 17 Dec 2017 18:49:31 +0700 Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2017 19:49:29 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Stari Karp , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: hd firecuda Message-ID: <20171217194929.428c0808.freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com> In-Reply-To: <1513509495.32624.1.camel@yandex.com> References: <1513447749.62024.1.camel@yandex.com> <20171217112428.150d8041.freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com> <1513509495.32624.1.camel@yandex.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AuthUser: freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com X-Originating-IP: 153.92.8.106 X-AntiSpamCloud-Domain: out.niagahoster.com X-AntiSpamCloud-Username: niaga Authentication-Results: antispamcloud.com; auth=pass (login) smtp.auth=niaga@out.niagahoster.com X-AntiSpamCloud-Outgoing-Class: unsure X-AntiSpamCloud-Outgoing-Evidence: Combined (0.30) X-Recommended-Action: accept X-Filter-ID: EX5BVjFpneJeBchSMxfU5iAQL2ohzw3sq46YvNcz3Nzj1g3/PwYZaTCzSym8uE9HZyapCu8pv/l9 0ZuaxwayyIKV+LZ6Gp/LHtMS0x6hjDH6QG6oDWQr5qk8z/hipQQVg2UF87yfGXUn1JqaojOkVblf KquC46Clw8RkrwWp7mIEybI1sOftHmSKUCHCvcq0znVhuHMMuHm+3AjcIRD8SNcndBz0AYmbn3BI z8FLT9Tu+nxKLrgVvAfnktki+lrHsZM3NzGj8IcslzaWgqEOuM+NvpGlmXbejfqufV4BNvqsAL96 EgU4J4J3tsW/5DkwosefbE1jmWEp5zI0N9cLxVT08VH0yijnhbv6KoiGRjf1jL6IeclsVv9KInUA VKaEbakcPDCTslva+VoTLKS2SpdzyOrbyjmSxo0VnpL7F8y56+418zUeOQ0QXBql74iA17NirEYy qwqMBGrw8ELiqMiA6ZaoUfKfmj/l7KQTGVaZ3JKVmi72ocgY5kMQSjs7JzWerSCxjnzYJaoqOJEH e6lb3jSUvyQBw3jj+H4QpBhmxvjvXMrt9tbyFJUyiqmlBQy++WtSuwgqkpPKq3pYY0HMi5YLoEVF pWE+Q4GPEr5sGEXpB2xMSMxt/AwdLvqWpQrYCrXZ+GSKfQqeXd/0/z9+5jlDpzk0rhrnoRggvhdb 1K6tQQSI6RVfqOjZSM0/bSYpdPkX23Uy51xrp5EOs51bUYydJi8oIIMwRgeAzIXVAbJteJ3sZapL m2f30ydUPzaedsl1cWhx0b0p/7yKVsfpghGQE0oK6bQuU18MUzeK8+SvDuPIe14unmKtzeou/tAV l4JF4OKoaGXF1Z8iVRqSDj3qUwsRTLyGr48f4gN2DiW4DS09CMepnSRBK5zYVgW9/bktU41htiJ8 fk7NkL64VVQ+kjR32goiFjjkAJIYiIWq463e1oIoK15uxgO5WjN06Upwcw2E86eY0stEUg== X-Report-Abuse-To: spam@quarantine1.antispamcloud.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2017 11:50:22 -0000 Hi, On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 06:18:15 -0500 Stari Karp wrote: > On Sun, 2017-12-17 at 11:24 +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 13:09:09 -0500 > > Stari Karp wrote: > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > I am running FreeBSD on iMac 11,1 and my hard drive is going down. > > > I > > > am looking for the new one. First I look for the same one which > > > is 80$ and I found Seagate 2.0TB FireCuda Solid State Hybrid drive > > > which > > > is less expensive than SSD drive and for me will be good choice: > > > Specifications: > > > https://eshop.macsales.com/item/Seagate/ST2000DX002 / > > > > > > I do not know if will be problem with FreeBSD. On computer is the > > > only > > > OS FreeBSD. > > > > > > > I write this on a machine running FreeBSD 10 with a FireCuda 2TB > > drive, > > but the 2.5" version. The drive works but its behaviour was not what > > I > > expected. > > > > The SSD part is too small from my point of view. The drive is really > > fast when working on a project for which all fits into the 8GB SSD > > memory my drive has. It becomes a totally different story when > > compiling > > the kernel or installing large ports. Even a simple 'exit' from a > > shell > > can take a minute when the shell I want to return was moved to the > > swap partition. Yes, this one minute is sixty seconds. The same is > > true > > when writing large amounts of data to the drive. The drive becomes > > slow, very, very slow. > > > > When the data to be read are not in the SSD part, the drive behaves > > like a normal HD when you are not writing large data sets at the > > same moment of time. > > > > This is also my second drive. The first one died after less than > > 15TB of data had been transferred. Of course, Seagate exchanged it > > for free. > > > > Both drives showed the same behaviour. > > > > With other words, it is a double sided sword. > > > > Erich > > Thank you. I have bad experience with Seagate, this is my second HD. I > decided for 1TB or 2 TB > Western Digital > 1.0TB WD Black Hard Disk Drive > 3.5-Inch | SATA 6.0Gb/s | 7200RPM | 64MB Cache > https://eshop.macsales.com/item/Western%20Digital/WD1003FZEX/ > > I do not like invest in SSD drive because iMac 1,1 is old and who > knows how long will be good and the next one will be PC. > drives can easily be changed. Anyway, you will not have surprises with this disk. Just a normal 1TB. It will deliver just what you expect. Erich